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- Solicitation number
- 28423
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- Adams County, Asotin County, Benton County, Chelan County, Clallam County, Clark County, Columbia County, Cowlitz County, Douglas County, Ferry County, Franklin County, Garfield County, Grant County, Grays Harbor County, Island County, Jefferson County, King County, Kitsap County, Kittitas County, Klickitat County, Lewis County, Lincoln County, Mason County, Okanogan County, Pacific County, Pend Oreille County, Pierce County, San Juan County, Skagit County, Skamania County, Snohomish County, Spokane County, Stevens County, Thurston County, Wahkiakum County, Walla Walla County, Whatcom County, Whitman County, Yakima County, Asotin City, Clarkston City, Clarkston Heights-Vineland CDP, West Clarkston-Highland CDP, Benton City, Chelan City, Chelan Falls CDP, Clallam Bay CDP, Lewisville CDP, Rock Island City, Pacific Beach CDP, Whidbey Island Station CDP, Mercer Island City, Pacific City, Bainbridge Island City, Kingston CDP, Kitsap Lake CDP, Kittitas City, Klickitat CDP, Okanogan City, Anderson Island CDP, Fort Lewis CDP, Fox Island CDP, Herron Island CDP, Ketron Island CDP, North Fort Lewis CDP, Raft Island CDP, Stevenson City, Hat Island CDP, Lake Stevens City, Snohomish City, Spokane City, Spokane Valley City, Puget Island CDP, Garfield Town, Yakima City, Washington
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This document is a Question and Answer (Q&A) for Competitive Solicitation No. 28423 issued by the Washington State Department of Enterprise Services (DES) to establish a statewide contract for the purchase of motor vehicles. The contract will be open to state and local government agencies in Washington. The solicitation covers a range of vehicle categories, including electric vehicles, and allows for annual price adjustments. Bidders were asked to provide pricing discounts off MSRP rather than a cost-plus pricing model. Bidders must be licensed Washington state dealers, though they do not require a physical showroom. The contract term is not specified.
Pricing terms include the requirement to provide base prices inclusive of delivery costs, while shipping costs to customers will be provided at the time of quoting in the CARS system. Sales tax will not be evaluated as part of the solicitation. Bidders are allowed to offer additional vehicle options beyond the specified requirements, though deviations may impact evaluation. The solicitation does not allow for substantive changes to the contract terms, which are intended to be equivalent for all awarded bidders.
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| File | Type | Posted |
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| 28423 Motor Vehicles Competitive Solicitation.docx | DOCX document | |
| Exhibit B-1 Specifications.docx | DOCX document | |
| Exhibit C - Bid Prices .xlsx | XLSX spreadsheet | |
| Exhibit D - Contract.docx | DOCX document | |
| Motor Vehicles PreBid.pdf | ||
| Exhibit A-1 - Bidder's Certification Amend 2.docx | DOCX document | |
| 28423 QA 1.docx | DOCX document | |
| Elec. Bid Drawings 7-1-2024 R2.pdf | ||
| Exhibit A-1 - Bidder's Certification.docx | DOCX document | |
| Exhibit B-2 - Performance Requirements.docx | DOCX document | |
| Exhibit C - Bid Prices Amendment 2 .xlsx | XLSX spreadsheet | |
| 28423 QA 3.docx | DOCX document | |
| 28423 Amendment 1.docx | DOCX document | |
| 28423 Amendment 2.docx | DOCX document | |
| Motor Vehicles Comp Solicitation Amend 2 .docx | DOCX document | |
| Exhibit C - Bid Prices Amendment 3.xlsx | XLSX spreadsheet | |
| Exhibit A-2-Bidder's Profile.docx | DOCX document |
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Question & Answer #2 Motor Vehicles - 28423
This document is posted to capture the questions received during the question & answer period for solicitation 28423, Motor Vehicles. This document is the official response to the questions received.
Questions or responses included in this document require changes to the solicitation documents. The solicitation has been updated on WEBS as 28423 Amendment 2 and all changes are detailed below.
Any additional questions regarding this solicitation must be directed to the Procurement Coordinator listed below.
Brandon Cipolla
(360) 407-7959 Brandon.Cipolla@des.wa.gov
| Question # |
| Question |
| Response |
| Did this change the solicitation? |
| 1. |
| Will Washington State Department of Enterprise Services accept all-electric Medium Duty Trucks (Class 4/5/6) as part of the state contract for Competitive Solicitation – No. 28423? |
| DES will accept all electric vehicles under any category. There is an additional category bidders may utilize specifically for electric vehicles. Electric Vehicles may be submitted under one or both categories in accordance with the instructions in Exhibit C. |
| N |
| 2. |
| Will Washington State Department of Enterprise Services change the requirement in section 2.3 of the solicitation from fixed price annually, to fixed price by model year? |
| DES has changed this requirement in Amendment 1 of the solicitation. The amendment specifies pricing per model year, and amended the sample contract to allow annual price adjustments for new model years as they become available. |
| Y |
| 3. |
| Regarding Exhibit B-2 |
It is important that dealers work with manufactures to determine vehicle order restrictions and supply chain disruptions. The best dealers actively work with manufactures and customers to minimize these disruptions.
Floor Plan interest rate are the amount of interest a dealer pays to a bank for its vehicles that they sell. With the current floor plan interest rates is very difficult for dealers to stock vehicles and still maintain some level of profit after the vehicle is sold. There are certain vehicles lines we do not allow dealers to stock in order to ensure all customers receive fair amount of vehicles.
I am requesting that line “(c) Identify average inventory levels that bidder carries day to day for each of the Contract Categories for which bidder is submitting a bid.” be removed from the performance requirements.
Evaluation is based on competition by category within each manufacturer. If average inventory levels by category are dictated by manufacturer policy, then the requirement will be equalized between dealerships.
For manufacturers that do not control dealer inventory levels, there is value in evaluating average inventory levels.
Bidders may choose to specify the types of vehicles and restrictions on inventory management in the written response.
N
| 4. |
| I did not see a vehicle specification form just a model price sheet in excel, is that all there is now? |
| Vehicles specifications are contained in Exhibit B-1 - Specifications, and in Exhibit D- Contract beginning on page 28. |
| N |
Questions below this line where answered in Q&A #2 on 16 September 2024
| 5. |
| On the instructions for exhibit C it states, shipping costs not to be included in the price sheet, is it referring to the delivery of the vehicle to the buyer? |
| Shipping costs referenced in the Exhibit C instructions refer to the delivery of the vehicle to the buyer. Delivery costs will be itemized to purchasers in the CARS system via quote. |
| N |
| 6. |
| In directions for 28423 section 4.3, it states bid prices must include All cost components needed for delivery, but also says we must identify all costs, where is my question? There is only one box to submit the price. How do we break down delivery (shipping costs) sales tax, vendor fees etc.? I see in the contract Exhibit D under Payment 9.2 it addresses Exhibit B that states “Bidders MSRP price discounts per category inserted at time of award” |
So, does all this come later? Is this first part just submitting A1 through C?
Identified costs may be detailed in the description of the model. The instructions in Exhibit C indicate “Base Price Shall include all customs and duties, OEM destination fee, all Vehicle preparation and clean-up charges, and all other OEM and Dealer incidentals normally included with providing a Vehicle.”
The table in Exhibit D – Contract will be inserted from the awarded bidders Exhibit C, including the MSRP discounts for the awarded categories.
N
| 7. |
| Will electric vehicle manufacturers be evaluated against combustion engine manufacturers or electric vehicle manufacturers? |
| Manufacturers will only compete against like manufacturers. Manufacturers who produce both internal combustion and electric vehicles may select category 3, or the most appropriate category for their vehicles. |
| N |
| 8. |
| Exhibit B-1 – Specifications |
1. Under ‘Requirements for Motor Vehicles, General Requirements’, does DES want bidders to list the manufacturer components or just state their compliance? For example, Engine/Motor/Drive System, a.) OEM’s standard engine/motor/drive system, should the bidder write down the type of engine, motor and drive system that will be on the vehicle or leave it blank?
| The requirements for motor vehicles section lists overall requirements for vehicles sold under the contract. Bidders are not required to provide individual compliance for motor vehicles in exhibit B-1. |
| N |
| 9. |
| For electric vehicle bids, must the “base price” and “MSRP” include the cost of range? Or can range be added to the “base” and “MSRP” price as an option in the CARS system? |
If an EV vendor offers several range options, must each range option have its own line item in Exhibit C – Bid Prices, or can they be grouped together in the “description” cell of the Excel document?
For vehicles bids, option models adhering to the same discount percentage may be submitted as a single model. Please note in the description the additional range options included in the base model.
N
| 10. |
| Are vendors allowed to offer additional vehicle options outside what is included in Exhibit B-1 Specifications? |
| Vendors may offer additional vehicle options. Please include in the description any deviations from the specifications listed. Deviations from the specifications may result in the removal of the specific model from evaluation. |
| N |
| 11. |
| Exhibit D – Contract |
Can bidders propose changes to Exhibit-D – Contract, and include proposed changes with our bid submission? Is the contract negotiable?
Enterprise Services does not intend to negotiate substantive contract terms and conditions pertaining to the resulting Contracts at contract award. Rather, Enterprise Services intends to provide all awarded bidders with substantively equivalent Contracts absent unique considerations. This approach enhances fairness for all bidders and provides eligible Purchasers with confidence that the resulting Contracts are substantively equivalent.
N
| 12 |
| In addition to the list of “Contract Users – Eligible Purchasers” in the solicitation document, can DES provide bidders with an Excel spreadsheet with the list of all organizations that can purchase off this contract? |
Bidders may access the list of eligible purchasers via the link below.
https://apps.des.wa.gov/DESContracts/Home/MCUAListing N
| 13. |
| I am requesting that bid participants must be an actual Washington State dealer. Registered with the Washington Secretary of State, as well as the Washington Department of Revenue. |
They also must be doing business with a physical location in Washington, inclusive of a showroom and service department.
I ask that you amend this contract to reflect this information.
| Exhibit A-1 has been amended to clarify that bidders must be licensed as a Washington State dealer. Bidders registered to sell vehicles in Washington State but without a showroom will still be considered for award. |
| Y |
| 14 |
| How would you like me to proceed as our OEM does not publish or state an MSRP with their police motorcycles? |
| Enterprise Services has added an additional category for Police Motorcycles, Category 1.1. This category will be evaluated on the base, un customized cost per individual model. Amendment 2 has been issued to add category 1.1 |
| Y |
| 15 |
| With having Multiple dealers for a manufacture , are they all going to be on the Cars site ? or is it the lowest bidder that is on the Cars site and the others just backup ? |
Could you give me an example how it works if you have two dealers on that manufacture for the cars site
| All awarded bidders will list their vehicles on the CARS website. Multiple awardees will be offering the same vehicle make and models with their own discounts. Eligible entities will be able to order vehicles from the awardee that is most advantageous to them by comparing delivery costs, sales tax, and other factors through the CARS quotation process. |
| N |
| 16 |
| On the instructions for exhibit C it states, shipping costs not to be included in the price sheet, is it referring to the delivery of the vehicle to the buyer? |
| The shipping costs referenced in exhibit B’s instructions are the shipping costs to customers. Shipping costs to customers will be provided at time of quote generation in CARS. |
| N |
| 17 |
| I still do not see where sales tax is addressed anywhere |
| Sales tax will not be evaluated through this solicitation. Ordering Agencies may select the most advantageous dealership/manufacturer for their region through the quote process in CARS. |
| N |
| 18 |
| In directions for 28423 section 4.3, it states bid prices must include All cost components needed for delivery, but also says we must identify all costs, where is my question? There is only one box to submit the price. How do we break down delivery (shipping costs) sales tax, vendor fees etc.? I see in the contract Exhibit D under Payment 9.2 it addresses Exhibit B that states “Bidders MSRP price discounts per category inserted at time of award” |
So, does all this come later? Is this first part just submitting A1 through C?
Delivery costs of vehicles and sales tax will be invoiced through the CARS system after award.
The reference in Exhibit D – Contract will be updated at the time of award with the bidders submission in solicitation Exhibit C – Bid Prices.
N
| 19 |
| My contract pricing, which includes OEM Manufacturer State/Local Government incentives for State Contract Awarded dealers, cannot be extended to Federal governmental agencies or entities. |
Therefore, I request that the bid and resulting contract be amended to remove “Federal governmental agencies or entities” as included in the list below.
| Please note in your bid pricing any pricing incentives that do not apply to Federal Government purchases. Awardees will be required to note any incentive restrictions in CARS. |
| N |
| 20 |
| Please amend this bid and resulting contract to reflect that Bid Price is based on a cost-plus basis to gain the lowest contract pricing. |
Using MSRP less percentage discount appears simpler, but it is a flawed bid strategy for automobile bids, in my opinion. Vehicle models (within same category) have different OEM Manufacturer government incentives (which change every model year based on projected volume), base fleet models vs. better-equipped “retail” trim upgrade models might have varying margins between dealer invoice and MSRP, so a percentage discount off MSRP for an entire category will not work to obtain consistent best pricing. Please note that the bid-required Minimum 1% MSRP Discount could create a negative profit (or loss) to dealer on certain models if they were bid and offered on contract. A cost-plus pricing strategy for both base model and factory options will provide best pricing.
Enterprise services has selected the MSRP discount evaluation methodology after carefully considering other options, including Cost-Plus.
The decision to move away from Cost-Plus for this procurement is based on several factors, including the requirements of FTA Circular 4220.1F. FTS Circular 422.1F and the application of the Common Grant Rules dictates the acceptable type of award structure for State contracts eligible for use with Federal funding. Cost-Plus contracts are expressly forbidden for recipients of these Federal Funds, which would prevent Agencies from utilizing the resulting contracts if utilizing federal funding. Based on these restrictions, Enterprise Services is unable to pursue a Cost-Plus pricing methodology for this procurement.
N
| 21 |
| Regarding Exhibit C – Bid Price, can the discount percentage be provided as a decimal, or must it be whole number? |
| Bid prices may be a whole numbers or decimals. Both 1% and 1.25% are acceptable submissions. |
| N |
| 22 |
| Am I going to be deemed non-responsive if my dealership doesn’t accept credit cards at all? |
| Credit card payments have been removed as a requirement through Amendment 2. |
| Y |
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