Updates to Line Items Summary for B-36918 JPMC Paratransit Vehicles Q and A-2.xlsx
XLSX spreadsheet 36 KB Posted
- Attached to
- JPMC Paratransit Vehicles
- Solicitation number
- 23-416CMS-BOSS4-B-36918
- Issued by
- Illinois
About this file
This document contains updates to the line items and questions and answers related to a state and local contract opportunity for JPMC Paratransit Vehicles issued by the Illinois Department of Transportation (IDOT). The contract is for the procurement of light duty and medium duty paratransit vehicles, as well as super medium duty paratransit vehicles. The key details include clarifications on technical specifications such as tire balancing, fuel tank access, HVAC performance and testing, battery mounting, wiring, flooring, seats, wheelchair securement, lighting, and heating. The contract also outlines warranty requirements, delivery timelines, and documentation to be submitted with bid responses.
The pricing terms indicate that all options are to be priced separately, and the contract allows for incumbents as well as new vendors to submit bids. Funding will be provided by state and local sources, with no specific set-aside requirements mentioned. The contract term is not explicitly stated, but it is common for these types of paratransit vehicle procurements to have an initial term with the option to renew for additional periods.
View the file
Other files
Show all 15
On GovTribe
Work with this file
- Download the original file
- Contacts named in this file
- Similar government files
- Ask GovTribe AI about this file
Text version
Sheet1
| Question # | Section | Question | Response |
| LD/MD | |||
| 1 | LD/MD | Tires are balanced by the OEM and are not re-balanced by the bus manufacturer. Request the first sentence be deleted or changed to “as required” and not “shall be”. | The first sentence of this section is changed to read: All wheel mounted tires shall be electronically spin balanced, on or off the vehicle, to a minimum speed of 65 mph either by the OEM or PVM only if the resident Inspector feels it is necessary after performing the road test. |
| 2.8.2.2 | |||
| 2 | LD/MD | IDOT might want to consider adding a fuel tank access plate to the interior floor. The plate allows access to the top of the fuel tank to replace components without having to lower the fuel tank. Saving time and money on repairs. | Fuel tank access plate is not required. |
| 2.10.1 | |||
| 3 | LD/MD | Section 3.3.14.1.1 specifies the performance requirements of the vehicle. Will a test on the actual vehicle be required to verify that performance requirements are met or will certification from the AC vendor met the requirements? If testing on an actual vehicle is required can IDOT provide detail testing requirements. AC testing requires environment chambers as well as equipment to measure results. This testing is costly and time consuming | A new sentence is added to the end of the second paragraph to read: A certification preferably with test results showing compliance with these requirements should be included with bid submittal with the understanding that the Procuring agency could require more extensive test results documentation or additional testing if HVAC performance does not appear to be sufficient either during road testing or during the first two years of operation. |
| 3.3.14.1.1 | |||
| 4 | LD/MD | Section 3.3.14.1.3 the specification has a conflict in regard to whether a dual compressor system is required. Please clarify as one sentence states, “The system can use the OEM Compressor” and later “The air condition system shall feature dual compressors driven off the engine”. | The second sentence of the second paragraph of this section is changed to read: The independent systems shall be separately operable from the driver's seat position, subject to approval by the Procuring Agency prior to production. |
| 3.3.14.1.3 | |||
| Note: reference to OEM compressor is deleted with this change, and the last paragraph of this section makes it clear that two compressors are required. | |||
| 5 | LD/MD | Spec states that batteries may be mounted together in the engine compartment, in a skirt mounted battery box or a stepwell battery box, or they may be split between two locations. All batteries shall be protected from weather and easily accessible for servicing and replacement. Please state what is desired and required with the batteries. All vendors can split the batteries with one under hood and one on frame rail, however they are not easily accessible. This will assure that all vendors are on an even playing field. | The first paragraph of this section is replaced with: Batteries shall be dual 12 volt parallel with crossover interconnect system, OEM heavy-duty, lead acid premium construction, maintenance free type, with a total capacity of 1500 CCA, minimum. Batteries may be mounted together in the engine compartment, in a skirt mounted battery box with pull-out stainless steel battery tray, or they may be split between two locations. Batteries mounted to the frame rail are not allowed. All batteries shall be protected from weather and easily accessible for servicing and replacement. The pull-out tray shall include a positive lock to retain the battery tray in the normal position. The battery tray shall pull out easily and properly support the batteries while they are being serviced. The inside surface of the battery compartment's access door shall be electrically insulated, as required, to prevent the battery terminals shorting on the door if the door is damaged in an accident or if a battery comes loose. All battery locations shall provide convenient access and shall be well ventilated and self-draining. All battery support, storage and access equipment shall be warranted to function properly and be free of corrosion for the designed life of the vehicle. Battery cables shall be flexible and sufficiently long to reach the batteries in extended positions without stretching or pulling on any connection and shall not lie directly on top of the batteries. The battery terminals and cables shall be color-coded with red for the primary positive, black for negative, and another color for any intermediate voltage cables. |
| 2.11.4.1 | |||
| 6 | LD/MD | Spec calls for connectors in areas exposed to the elements to be protected by heat shrink tubing and coated with silicone grease. Our bus manufacturer uses weatherproof sealed type connectors and heat shrink tubing to resist moisture. Silicone grease is not required with these connectors and heat shrink tubing. Please accept this as an approved equal. | The second sentence of the first paragraph is changed to read: Connectors in areas exposed to the elements or subject to moisture shall be protected by heat-shrink tubing. |
| 2.11.5.7 | |||
| Note: next sentence states: If heat-shrink tubing cannot be used … the connector shall be coated with silicone grease. | |||
| 7 | LD/MD | Spec calls for all wiring harnesses over five feet long and that contain at least five wires shall include 10 percent extra wires for spares. Our wire harnesses are all pre- fabricated and cut to length per each build. We feel the extra wiring is not needed, because there is ample wiring already provided on the buses. There would be no need for spare wiring in the bus. If any of the optional equipment is selected, there will be the necessary wiring provided, as needed. Please accept this as an approved equal. | Two new sentences are added to the end of this section to read: A spare fuse block mounted in the electrical panel that can be easily taped into to run power elsewhere in the vehicle is acceptable in lieu of the extra wiring requirement. Details of the spare fuse block including mounting location and amp loading should be provided with bid submittal and approved by the Procuring Agency prior to production. |
| 2.11.5.7 | |||
| 8 | LD/MD | Spec calls for ¾ inch minimum plywood subfloor. We ask that COOSA composite subfloor be approved as an approved equal. Composite is a superior product to plywood as it is impervious to water, will not rot, or erode over time. Edges will not need sealed from moisture, as the composite subfloor will not deteriorate. Please accept this as an approved equal. | The second sentence of the second paragraph of this section already states that: Alternative sub-floor material may be allowed if justification can be made with bid submittal that the alternative meets or exceeds 3/4-inch minimum, 7-ply, APA standard grade A-C plywood. |
| 3.3.3.2 | |||
| Also, in paragraph two, a new sentence has been added after the second sentence to read: If composite flooring is used, a detailed written procedure on how the flooring is to be repaired should be included with bid submittal. | |||
| 9 | LD/MD | Spec states that steps and thresholds shall be covered with ribbed floor covering. This contradicts section 3.3.3.3 that calls for 2.2mm non-slip floor covering. We ask that the entire bus including steps and thresholds have 2.2mm non-slip floor covering. Please remove ribbed floor spec. | The first sentence in this section is changed to read: Steps and thresholds shall be covered with the same 2.2mm style non-slip composition flooring specified in section 3.3.3.3. |
| 3.3.4.2 | |||
| 10 | LD/MD | Spec calls for drivers seat to have adjustable lumbar support. Ford OEM driver seat does not have adjustable lumbar support. Please accept OEM driver’s seat as an approved equal. | The first sentence in this section is changed to read: The driver's seat shall be OEM four-way seat, with heavy-duty commercial grade cloth fabric upholstery and high-back feature. |
| 3.3.10.3.1 | |||
| 11 | LD/MD | Spec calls for retractable lap and shoulder belt and shall be self-storing. This contradicts section 3.3.10.6.3 that states the lap and shoulder belts shall attach directly into the rear mobility aid tie-downs, which would imply manual lap and shoulder belts. Please clarify if retractable or manual lap and shoulder belts are desired. | Retractable belts are required. |
| 3.3.10.6.6 | |||
| 12 | LD/MD | Spec calls for air conditioning system to feature dual compressors, and a different paragraph states that it is acceptable for both systems to use the OEM compressor. It also states that the total output capacity to be 60,000 BTU/hr. We highly recommend that a dual compressor system be required to ensure proper cooling of the bus. Please clarify and require this, so all bidders are bidding similar A/C units. | The second sentence of the second paragraph of this section is changed to read: The independent systems shall be separately operable from the driver's seat position, subject to approval by the Procuring Agency prior to production. |
| 3.3.14.1.3 | |||
| Note: reference to OEM compressor is deleted with this change, and the last paragraph of this section makes it clear that two compressors are required. | |||
| 13 | LD/MD | Spec calls for condenser winter covers/ splash apron to be provided. The A/C manufacturers and bus body manufacturers do not provide these anymore. We ask that this spec be removed. | No changes are made to this section, condenser winter cover and splash apron are to be provided. |
| 3.3.14.3.2 | |||
| 14 | LD/MD | Spec calls for fleet defect in 20% or more of delivered vehicles. We will be happy to warrant a Fleet Defect on the bus body construction, workmanship and the installation of components supplied by our vendors; however, we feel that we should not be accountable for the sub-component parts being installed. We ask that the fleet defect clause be removed, and body and subsystem warranties prevail. | No changes are made to this section, fleet defect provisions apply. |
| 4.1.20 | |||
| 15 | LD/MD | For the light duty and medium duty paratransit vehicles on page 7 of technical spec section items 1.2.1.3 and 1.2.1.4 it has seated passenger weight at 150 lbs. and 200 lbs. for each wheelchair location. For the Super Medium Duty paratransit spec on page 8 sections 1.2.1.3 and 1.2.1.4 it has seated weight at 150 lbs. and 300 lbs. for each wheelchair location. The manufacturers use the same weight criteria across the board for the different types of buses they build. The standard which is in compliance with rules/regulations and industry accepted is 150 lbs. for each seated passenger and 200 lbs. for each wheelchair passenger. Request that this made consistent across the LD/MD and SMD bus specs and change the Super Medium Duty to the 150 lbs. / 200 lbs. standard. | Section 1.2.1.3. is changed to read: S L. (Seated Load). 150 lbs. for every passenger seating position and for the driver, and 250 lbs. for each wheelchair or mobility aid securement location provided. |
| 1.2.1.3 and 1.2.1.4 | |||
| Section 1.2.1.4. is changed to read: Gross Load. 150 lbs. for every passenger seating position and for the driver, and 250 lbs. for each wheelchair or mobility aid securement location provided. | |||
| 16 | LD/MD | Specification calls for steps and thresholds to be covered with 3/16-inch ribbed covering. This is in contradiction with section 3.3.3.3 page 29 in which it calls for 2.2mm style floor covering for step treads and entrance area. The 3/16-inch and the 2.2mm are totally different materials. Request that first sentence under 3.3.4.2 be removed. Thus steps, risers and flooring will all be the same material. This will also then match the description for the SMD buses under section 3.3.4.2 | The first sentence in this section is changed to read: Steps and thresholds shall be covered with the same 2.2mm style non-slip composition flooring specified in section 3.3.3.3. |
| 3.3.4.2 | |||
| 17 | LD/MD | States that samples of seat material shall be provided with the bid. When bids use to be hard copy submission, samples were provided. However, in an electronic bid it is not possible to submit actual samples. Request this requirement be deleted. Samples could be provided to ordering agency upon vendor receiving an order. | The last sentence in the second paragraph is changed to read: Samples shall be approved by the Procuring Agency prior to production. |
| 3.3.10.4.2 | |||
| 18 | LD/MD | There is no indication of the types/style of seats required for seats that are not in wheelchair locations. These would be fixed seats that do not fold and are available in different seat back heights. Please provide more details on the fixed seats. | The first sentence of the first paragraph in this section is changed to read: All seats for the wheelchair/mobility aid positions shall be forward facing fold-away type passenger seats and cantilevered requiring no outboard support leg. |
| 3.3.10.4.1 | |||
| A new sentenced is added to the end of the first paragraph to read: All fixed seats (those that are not fold-away) shall be mid-high back style double passenger seats conforming to all other requirements in this section. | |||
| 19 | LD/MD | States that the rear air conditioning system can use the OEM compressor. However further down under this section it states that air conditioning system shall feature dual compressors. To meet the cooling requirements/performance and to achieve two totally independent cooling systems (front and rear), a dual compressor system is necessary. Suggest statement that rear air conditioning system can use OEM compressor be removed/deleted to eliminate confusion. | The second sentence of the second paragraph in this section is changed to read: The independent systems shall be separately operable from the driver's seat position, subject to approval by the Procuring Agency prior to production. |
| 3.3.14.1.3 | |||
| Note: reference to OEM compressor is deleted with this change, and the last paragraph of this section makes it clear that two compressors are required. | |||
| 20 | LD/MD | Sections states a backup camera system shall be installed. Then in last sentences it states option to be priced separately. Appears this is a base required feature. So is it to be included in base price or quoted separately? | In section 1.1.8.3 the following is deleted: Section 3.4.1.10 – Approval of optional back-up warning camera (if applicable). |
| 3.4.1.10 | |||
| The last sentence of section 3.4.1.10 is also deleted (All options shall be priced separately in the bid.) |
| The backup camera is to be provided as standard equipment. | |||
| 21 | LD/MD | Section states that the lift shall have an 800-pound rated lift capacity. There is an 800-pound lift capacity available. However, in the previous IDOT bid the lift was upgraded to a 1000-pound lift capacity. IDOT determined that a higher rated capacity lift was necessitated due to increased passenger weight and heavier mobility aid devices that were being transported. Recommend that IDOT change current bid to require the 1,000-pound rated lift capacity. | In the third sentence of this section, the lifting capacity of the lift is changed from 800 to 1,000 pound rated lifting capacity. |
| 3.5.2.2 | |||
| 22 | LD/MD | Section calls for HVAC system warranty of three years. Request that this be amended to two years which is the warranty provided by the AC manufacturer. This will also then match what the HVAC warranty is for the SMD buses that are part of this bid procurement and offer continuity between the products. | This section is changed to read: HVAC System - Two years |
| 5.3.5 | |||
| 23 | LD/MD | Calls for door frames and stepwell warranty of seven years. Request that this be amended to 5 years which then would match that as required on the SMD buses and offer continuity between the products. Buses are designed and built the same so there is no need for different warranty terms. Bus body manufacturer warranty is 5 years/100,000 miles | Warranty for Door, Door Frames and Step well is changed to five years. |
| 5.3.5 | |||
| SMD | |||
| 24 | SMD | Option C requires seating capacity of 30 passengers. Maximum capacity is 28 passengers due to weight concerns. Request the capacity be changed to 28 passengers. | Option C changed to read: Seated capacity for 28 forward facing seats (minimum) and seven wheelchair/mobility aid locations, |
| 1.1.5 | |||
| 25 | SMD | Option C requires seating capacity of 30 passengers. Maximum capacity is 28 passengers due to weight concerns. Request the capacity be changed to 28 passengers. | Option C changed to read: Seated capacity for 28 forward facing seats (minimum) and seven wheelchair/mobility aid locations, |
| 1.5.1.1.1 | |||
| 26 | SMD | Underbody Clearance for option C is different from the standard. Request option B be included with option C as they are the same length bus. Request second sentence to read “Option B and C” in lieu of just Option C. | The third sentence in this section is changed to read: For Options B and C seating configuration, the departure angle shall be no less than 6.5 degrees and the breakover angle no less than 5.5 degrees. |
| 1.5.2.1.1 |
| 27 | SMD | Option C requires seating capacity of 30 passengers. Maximum capacity is 28 passengers due to weight concerns. Request the capacity be changed to 28 passengers. | Set 4 is changed to read: Option C Vehicle Configuration with 28 seats minimum and seven wheelchair/mobility aid locations. |
| Section 1.5.4.2 Set 4 | |||
| 28 | SMD | The tires are balanced by the OEM and are not re-balanced by the bus manufacturer. Request the first sentence be deleted or changed to “as required” and not “shall be”. | The first sentence of this section is changed to read: All wheel mounted tires shall be electronically spin balanced, on or off the vehicle, to a minimum speed of 65 mph either by the OEM or PVM only if the resident Inspector feels it is necessary after performing the road test. |
| 2.8.2.2 | |||
| 29 | SMD | IDOT might want to consider adding a fuel tank access plate to the interior floor. The plate allows access to the top of the fuel tank to replace components without having to lower the fuel tank. Saving time and money on repairs. | Fuel tank access plate is not required. |
| 2.10.1 | |||
| 30 | SMD | Request this language be changed to match the language in the LD/MD Specification. | This section is changed to read: Each battery shall be fully maintained prior to shipment; warranty start up period is activated on bus delivery date |
| 2.11.4.2 | |||
| 31 | SMD | Request this language be changed to match the language in the LD/MD Specification. | This section is changed to read: Heavy-duty transit type rub rail(s) composed of durable, flexible, resilient elastomeric material, a minimum of an inch and a quarter in width, shall be provided at the proper height, to protect both sides of the vehicle body from damage caused by minor sideswipe accidents with automobiles and other vehicles, and stationary objects. Rub rails must be mounted to a structural hard point on the bus body and shall be fastened with both adhesive and mechanical corrosion resistant fasteners. As an alternative, an extruded aluminum section with an elastomeric rub rail insert may be provided; an all-aluminum rub rail is also acceptable provided that mounting of either design will not result in paint damage or contribute to corrosion. |
| 3.2.9.1 | |||
| 32 | SMD | Request the approval of the OEM running board as an alternative. | A new sentence is added to the end of this section to read: An OEM running board is acceptable if it meets the requirements of this section. |
| 3.2.10.1 | |||
| 33 | SMD | Request the approval of the OEM grab handle located in the interior door jamb as an alternative. | This section remains as is. |
| 3.3.5.4 | |||
| 34 | SMD | Specifies the performance requirements of the vehicle. Will a test on the actual vehicle be required to verify that performance requirements are met or will certification from the AC vendor met the requirements? If testing on an actual vehicle is required can IDOT provide detail testing requirements. AC testing requires environment chambers as well as equipment to measure results. This testing is costly and time consuming. | A new sentence is added to the end of the second paragraph to read: A certification preferably with test results showing compliance with these requirements should be included with bid submittal with the understanding that the Procuring agency could require more extensive test result documentation or additional testing if HVAC performance does not appear to be sufficient either during road testing or during the first two years of operation. |
| 3.3.14.1.1 | |||
| 35 | SMD | Option Y request handheld mic as an alternative to the boom microphone. | This section clearly states that the standard specification calls for a hand-held microphone. Option Y allows grantees to order a boom microphone as an option to be priced separately in the bid. |
| 3.3.22.6 | |||
| The first sentence in Option Y is changed to read: A boom microphone and mounting bracket on left window post within easy reach of driver shall be provided and shall be foot operated. | |||
| 36 | SMD | Option Z for clarification an overhead luggage rack cannot be located above an ADA wheelchair space. Floor plans will be required to be review and approved by the purchasing agency. | The specification states that “An interior overhead luggage rack shall be provided meeting all applicable regulations including ADA. Details including location, installation, and dimensions should be submitted with the bid.” It is understood that to comply with ADA, overhead luggage rack cannot be located above an ADA wheelchair space. If no overhead luggage racks can be provided to meet ADA, it should be stated with bid submittal for this option. |
| 3.3.22.8 | |||
| 37 | SMD | request this language be changed to match the language in the LD/MD Specification. | This section is changed to read: Total vehicle operation shall be evaluated during road tests. The purpose of the road tests is to observe and verify the operation of the vehicle as a system and to verify the functional operation of the subsystems that can be operated only while the vehicle is in motion. Each vehicle shall be road tested for up to 10 miles; if defects found the Resident Inspector may request additional testing. Observed defects shall be recorded on the test forms. The vehicle shall be retested when defects are corrected, and adjustments are made. This process shall continue until defects or required adjustments are no longer detected. Results shall be pass/fail for these vehicle operations tests. |
| 5.2.2.2 | |||
| 38 | SMD | Documentation to supply with bid. In the LD/MD vehicles in this section it indicates submission of documents for section 2.1.4.2. However, no such documentation is listed in the SMD specs. Was this overlooked and should it be submitted with the bid? | Section 1.1.7.2 is modified to include: Section 2.1.4.2 - The Vendor should supply the Procuring Agency with bid submittal performance data from most recent Altoona bus testing report for the bus model being built including gradeability results showing acceleration, gradeability, and top speed capabilities of the bus. |
| 1.1.7.2 | |||
| Section 1.2.1.3. is changed to read: S L. (Seated Load). 150 lbs. for every passenger seating position and for the driver, and 250 lbs. for each wheelchair or mobility aid securement location provided. | |||
| (See Question 15 above) | |||
| Section 1.2.1.4. is changed to read: Gross Load. 150 lbs. for every passenger seating position and for the driver, and 250 lbs. for each wheelchair or mobility aid securement location provided. | |||
| SMD | |||
| 1.2.1.3 | |||
| 1.2.1.4 | |||
| 39 | SMD | For standard vehicle configuration of 22 passenger bus item (b) calls for two wheelchairs and 18 seated passengers. For "OPTION A" (b) it also calls for two wheelchairs and 18 seated passengers. Request approval of item (b) for standard vehicle and OPTION A to allow floorplan of two wheelchairs and 16 seated passengers. | The following sections are changed to read: |
| 1.5.1.1.1 | Seated Capacity - Standard Vehicle Configuration. | ||
| (b) two wheelchair/mobility aid locations and 16 forward facing seated passengers plus driver, convertible to, |
OPTION A: Alternative Seated Capacity Configuration No. 1.
| (b) two wheelchair/mobility aid locations and 16 forward facing seated passengers plus driver, convertible to, | |||
| 40 | SMD | Under option "C" it calls for a 30passenger bus. Due to length and weight limitation on the Ford F550 chassis, attaining 30 passenger is not achievable. We can get 28 passengers with no wheelchairs with mix of 2 wheelchairs/20 passengers, 5 wheelchairs/10 passengers, 7 wheelchairs/4 passengers. The wheelchair/seated passenger mix is better than required but simply cannot get 30 seated passengers. Request approval of 28 passenger size. | Option C changed to read: Seated capacity for 28 forward facing seats (minimum) and seven wheelchair/mobility aid locations, |
| 1.5.1.1.1 | |||
| 41 | SMD | Calls for non-OEM wiring to be color and number coded. We request that this be amended to state wiring shall be color coded and function and/or number coded. This is how the LD/MD spec is written. Function coded is more widely used that number coded. | The first sentence of this section is changed to read: Non-OEM insulated wiring shall be color coded and function and/or number coded such that any wire function can be easily identified without exception with no duplication of identification. |
| 2.11.5.5 | |||
| 42 | SMD | Calls for vendor to supply one each of every type of fuse used in the body and that they be stored in the fuse block holder. There is not room in the body electrical panel to store extra fuses. We ask that this be changed to mirror the requirements of 2.11.5.10 for the LD/MD buses whereby fuses of each amperage and type can be shipped separately in each vehicle. In past these have simply been in a storage pouch. | The fifth sentence in this paragraph is changed to read: One spare fuse of each amperage utilized shall be shipped separately in each vehicle. |
| 2.11.5.10 | |||
| 43 | SMD | Section address types of rub rails allowed. We ask that in addition to those as listed that an all-aluminum rub rail be accepted providing that mounting of either design will not result in paint damage and or corrosion. This design has previously been approved by IDOT and is on many buses already provided and in service. In addition, this type of rub rail is allowed for the LD/MD vehicles. | This section is changed to read: Heavy-duty transit type rub rail(s) composed of durable, flexible, resilient elastomeric material, a minimum of an inch and a quarter in width, shall be provided at the proper height, to protect both sides of the vehicle body from damage caused by minor sideswipe accidents with automobiles and other vehicles, and stationary objects. Rub rails must be mounted to a structural hard point on the bus body and shall be fastened with both adhesive and mechanical corrosion resistant fasteners. As an alternative, an extruded aluminum section with an elastomeric rub rail insert may be provided; an all-aluminum rub rail is also acceptable provided that mounting of either design will not result in paint damage or contribute to corrosion. |
| 3.2.9.1 | |||
| 44 | SMD | Section addresses the bus floor in passenger area. As written is allows for wheel well housing in passenger compartment. In the LD/MD buses under same section it does not allow interior wheel housing in passenger compartment and requires a flat floor. Suggest that this section for SMD also require a flat floor with no wheel housing protrusions. Also, to get the floor plan layouts as issued and requested a flat plane floor will be required. | The second sentence in this section is changed to read: The floor from the top step riser shall be a continuous flat plane throughout the interior with no interior wheel housings. |
| 3.3.3.1 | |||
| The last sentence in the first paragraph is changed to read: Alternative sub-floor material may be allowed if justification can be made with bid submittal that the alternative meets or exceeds 3/4-inch minimum, 7-ply, APA standard grade A-C plywood. | |||
| Also, a new sentence has been added to the end of the first paragraph to read: If composite flooring is used, a detailed written procedure on how the flooring is to be repaired should be included with bid submittal. | |||
| SMD | |||
| 3.3.3.2 (correction to spec by IDOT) | |||
| 45 | SMD | Indicates stepwell shall be molded fiberglass or stainless steel. We request that this be amended to allow for G40 Galvanized material as well. This would then mirror the same section in the LD/MD bus specs. G40 has been used in previous IDOT vehicles. | The second sentence of this section is replaced with the following two sentences to read: The stepwell shall be of modular design, one piece fabricated minimum 304 stainless steel or G40 minimum rated coated galvanized steel to resist corrosion with a powder coated finish or corrosion resistant primer and high-quality paint. Use of dissimilar metals shall be limited as much as possible due to welding difficulties. |
| 3.3.4.1 | |||
| In addition, the following sentence is added to the end of the section to read: Design of the passenger door stepwell including all steps leading to the floor and related dimensions should be provided with bid submittal and approved by the Procuring Agency prior to production. | |||
| 46 | SMD | Section addresses step well covering. However, there is no mention of stepwell nosing like there is in the LD/MD specs. Suggest requirement of bright white step nosing be added. | This section is changed to read: Steps and thresholds shall be covered with the same 2.2mm style non-slip composition flooring specified in section 3.3.3.3. All step edges shall be covered with bright white molded-in step edge nosing over the full width of the step, with minimum or no taper into the butting riser covering. If screws are used for additional holding strength, they shall be dome-head type stainless steel and counter sunk below material surface. |
| 3.3.4.2 | |||
| 47 | SMD | This section describes the driver stanchion and modesty panel. There is no mention of a plexiglass or plastic shield of at least 1/4" thickness above the cross rail. For the LD and MD buses this shield is required. In addition, IDOT always gets this shield on all their buses. Was this overlooked? Please advise if correct or issue addendum to add. | This section is changed to read: Modesty panels are required at three locations: behind the driver and on each side of the wheelchair/mobility aid lift. The modesty panel located at the rear of the driver's station shall be in two sections: a solid panel matching the other modesty panels shall be provided below the horizontal cross rail; a rigid tinted Plexiglass or plastic barrier shield of at least 1/4-inch thickness shall be provided above the cross rail. Modesty panels and mountings shall withstand normal kicking, pushing, and pulling loads of 250-pound passengers without permanent visible deformation. Panels shall be attached so that there are no exposed edges or rough surfaces. Where modesty panels are provided, they shall be padded on the side facing the passengers and covered with vinyl that coordinates with the interior color of the vehicle. Design and location of all modesty panels shall require review and approval by the Procuring Agency prior to production. |
| 3.3.5.3 | |||
| 48 | SMD | States that assist rails grabrails and stanchions to be powder coated yellow. In the LD/MD specifications, this section only requires the entrance grab rails to be powder coated yellow and not the stanchions. In the SMD it appears all handrails, stanchions (vertical & horizontal) are to be powder coated yellow. Please clarify as there is deviation in the two specs. Also, in the past only the entrance handrails have been powder coated yellow. | The second sentence of this section is replaced with the following two sentences to read: Passenger assist grabrails and stanchions shall be constructed of seamless stainless steel or stainless-steel clad tubing and designed to last the design life of the vehicle. The right and left side handrails at the entry shall be safety powder coated yellow in color but not padded and shall be parallel to the incline of the steps. |
| 3.3.5.1 | |||
| 49 | SMD | OPTION L: Specifications call for a farebox mounting provision that includes stanchion and mounting brackets. There are numerous manufacturers and styles of fareboxes available. Each require different types/styles of mounting stanchions. Mounting brackets come with the fareboxes from the manufacturer. So, without knowing what make or model of farebox that may be installed it is impossible to provide a quote for the stanchions/mounting brackets. Plus, to get the mounting brackets, they come with the fareboxes. Vendor would need to supply the boxes as well. We request that this option be deleted since there is not enough information such as make, model of fare box as well as the intended location. This is something that an owner needs to get quoted/installed after receipt of vehicle once a make, type, and location of farebox is determined. | In this section Option L is deleted in its entirety. |
| 3.3.5.6 | |||
| Note: Option L is also deleted from Section 1.1.5, as there is no need to price it separately in bid. | |||
| 50 | SMD | In the LD/MD spec section 3.3.5.6 it list required documentation that is to be sent in with the bids. However, this section in the SMD specs covers something entirely different. Is it possible that what was listed in the LD/MD specs was missed/overlooked in the SMD specs? These documents have always been required in the past. Please clarify or amend. | A new section 3.3.5.6 is added to the SMD spec to read: Design and location of modesty panels, stanchions, handrails and grabrails should be provided with bid submittal and approved by the Procuring Agency prior to production. |
| 1.1.7.3 | |||
| 3.3.5.6 | Note: a statement that this material should be provided with bid submittal is also added Section 1.1.7.3 |
| 51 | SMD | OPTION M: Specification calls for storage device for walkers, oxygen tanks, canes, and braces. The system for walkers, canes and braces is a totally different device from the oxygen tank storage device. We recommend that these two be split into two separate options. It is also quite possible that ordering agency may not be interest in both and thus spend additional dollars for something they do not need or want. | This option is deleted from the specification and there is no need to provide pricing for it. |
| 3.3.5.7 | |||
| 52 | SMD | Section addresses interior panels. It is not clear what type of interior panel material is allowed. For the LD and MD buses this section states that materials shall be FRP, or aluminum and no padded vinyl will be accepted. Was this inadvertently left out in the SMD specs? IDOT has always required FRP or aluminum in the past. Please clarify or change per addendum. | After the first sentence of this section, the following two sentences are added to read: Ceiling, wall panels or trim pieces shall be either FRP or aluminum. Padded vinyl material is not allowed for walls and ceiling except in cases where the padding is needed to provide passenger protection (e.g., headers, etc.) |
| 3.3.9.2 | |||
| 53 | SMD | Specification calls for lower side panels below windows to be either white or a medium to light grey. Then goes on to state upper panels and interior ceiling panels shall be white. Request that light to medium grey also be accepted for upper panels and ceiling color. Typically, buses do not have different colors in these areas. Also, this change would then mirror what is called for on the LD and MD paratransit buses. | The second sentence in this section is changes to read: Upper trim panels and interior ceiling panel shall be either white or a medium to light gray. |
| 3.3.9.3 | |||
| 54 | SMD | Possible missing section 3.3.9.6. In the LD.MD specification under 3.3.9.6 it requires a interior storage compartment and gives specific needs of the compartment. IDOT has always had this nose cone storage. May this have been inadvertently removed/overlooked. Please clarify or change per addendum. | A new section 3.3.9.6 is added to read: An interior storage compartment with positive latching mechanism shall be provided above and forward of the windshield extending as deep and wide as possible for maximum storage capacity. Access to the compartment shall be provided through an access door equipped with gas spring prop(s), commercial retractable door spring assembly, or suitable hold-open device to assist in opening the door when the latch is released and to retain the doors in the fully open position. The interior of the compartment shall have a finished appearance with no rough surfaces or protrusions. The Vendor should provide details regarding the design of the interior storage compartment, its location, interior finish, access door, and the hold-open device with bid submittal and approved by the Procuring Agency prior to production. |
| The following is added to Section 1.1.7.3: Section 3.3.9.6. - Details of the interior storage compartment, its location, interior finish, access door, and the hold-open device. | |||
| SMD | |||
| 1.1.7.3 |
| 55 | SMD | OPTION N: States that an OEM six-way power driver seat be quoted as an option. First there is not a six-way power seat available from the OEM. They do offer an 8-way OEM power seat. However, the only way to get this seat is by a trim upgrade package that includes numerous other standard features and options that are not necessary for the type of buses required. In addition to get this seat, the package upgrade is approximately $3,000.00 more money. It makes no sense to spend this amount of money just for an OEM power seat. Additionally, there is no aftermarket driver power driver seat available that will work in conjunction with the OEM airbag system. Suggest considering removal of this option from the bid. | Option N is changed to read: The vehicle shall be equipped with an upgraded OEM driver’s seat meeting the requirements of Section 3.3.10.3 (cloth, high-back, etc.). Details of the optional OEM driver’s seat including all enhanced features should be provided with bid submittal. If the cost of the upgraded OEM seat includes other items as part of an option package, a listing of those items should be provided. Also, if ordering this option will cause a chassis delay, this information should be provided with bid submittal. All options shall be priced separately in the bid. |
| 3.3.10.3.3 | |||
| 56 | SMD | Section describes the foldaway seats to be utilized where wheelchair positions are located. There are different styles of fold a way seats. In the LD/MD spec under the same section, it notes that foldaway seats are to be "notchback" style. We recommend that "notchback" be added to the SMD specs. This will assure all bidders provide the same level of seats. In addition, "notchbacks" have been used by IDOT for several years. | The following sentence is added to this section: Foldaway seats for the wheelchair/mobility aid positions shall be “notch-back” with a molded thermoplastic back panel. |
| 3.3.10.4.1 | |||
| 57 | SMD | There is no indication of the types/style of seats required for seats that are not in wheelchair locations. These would be fixed seats that do not fold and are available in different seat back heights. Please provide more details on the fixed seats. | The first sentence of the first paragraph in this section is changed to read: All seats for the wheelchair/mobility aid positions shall be forward facing fold-away type passenger seats and cantilevered requiring no outboard support leg conforming to all FMVSS regulations. |
| 3.3.10.4.1 | |||
| Also, A new sentenced is added to this section to read: All fixed seats (those that are not fold-away) shall be mid-high back style double passenger seats conforming to all other requirements in this section. |
| 58 | SMD | States that samples of seat material shall be provided with the bid. When bids use to be hard copy submission, samples were provided. However, in an electronic bid it is not possible to submit actual samples. Request this requirement be deleted. Samples could be provided to ordering agency upon vendor receiving an order. | The last sentence of the second paragraph of this section is changed to read: Samples to be approved by the Procuring Agency prior to production. |
| 3.3.10.4.2 | |||
| 59 | SMD | Specification state that Two (2) 24-inch extension belts shall be provided to accommodate passengers requiring additional belt length. 24-inch extension belts are not available. Suggest this section be amended to mirror that of the LD/MD spec and add the following to this section. "otherwise, two (2) 12-inch extension belts shall be provided. 12-inch belts are available. | The last sentence of first paragraph of this section is changed to read: Two (2) 12-inch extension belts shall be provided to accommodate passengers requiring additional belt length. |
| 3.3.10.5.1 | |||
| 60 | SMD | Specifications state that "an L-track storage compartment shall be provided to accommodate wheelchair/mobility aid securement belts when not in use." Suggest this be changes to read " An L-track compatible storage system shall be provided under the fold a way seats to store the two wheelchair/mobility aid securement systems when not in use.". This change will mirror what is required on the LD/MD vehicles. | The second sentence in this section is changed to read: An L-track compatible storage system shall be provided under the fold a way seats to store the two wheelchair/mobility aid securement systems when not in use. |
| 3.3.10.6.9 | |||
| 61 | SMD | Specifications call for LED overhead lighting system with minimum of 20 diodes per light. The 20 diodes is an old specification and should be removed. Suggest replicating this section 3.3.11.1.1 with the same section from the LD/MD vehicles. | The first sentence in this section is changed to read: A transit grade LED overhead lighting system shall be provided for illuminating the passenger compartment area to satisfy performance requirements of this section. |
| 3.3.11.1.1 | |||
| Also, a new sentence is added at the end of this section to read: Test results showing compliance with these illumination requirements shall be provided with the pilot or first production review or as soon as the test report is available, whichever is sooner. | |||
| 62 | SMD | Specifications call for two rear hot water heaters to be located in the rear of the vehicle under the passenger seats. Since there are numerous floorplans, options being quoted and available, it is possible that there may not be any fixed seats put the heaters under. All seats could possibly be fold up seats. We request that this be amended to state " Where floorplan allows, heaters shall be mounted under fixed seats. Otherwise wall mounted heaters will be acceptable." This will also mirror the LD/MD vehicles where both floor or wall mounted heats are allowed. | The second sentence of the third paragraph of this section is replaced with two sentences to read: Two high-capacity hot water heaters with a combined output of about 70,000 BTU/hr. shall be located 1) near the middle of the vehicle between lift and modesty panel and 2) at the rear area of the vehicle. Heaters shall be mounted under the fixed seats where floorplan allows; if space does not allow, wall or vertical heaters will be acceptable; location(s) shall be approved by the Procuring Agency prior to production. |
| 3.3.14.1.2 | |||
| Also, the last paragraph in this section is changed to read: Documentation showing how extra heating capacity equally distributed throughout the vehicle should be provided with bid submittal if seating arrangement does not allow sufficient space for two high-capacity hot water heaters. | |||
| 63 | SMD | Specification states that the OEM compressor can be used for the rear air conditioning system. The size of this SMD bus needs dual compressors with one from the OEM chassis for the front HVAC system and an additional one for the rear system. Recommend changing this to require two compressors with two totally independent front and rear systems. The smaller LD/MD vehicle specifications require dual compressors. | The second sentence in the second paragraph is changes to read: The air conditioning system shall feature dual compressors driven off the engine with two totally independent front and rear systems separately operable from the driver's seat position, subject to approval by the Procuring Agency prior to production. |
| 3.3.14.1.3 | |||
| 64 | SMD | Specifications call for "Adjustable (OEM if applicable) sun visors shall be provided for both the driver's side of the windshield and side window. The design of the chassis used for the SMD vehicles does not allow/offer a separate visor for the driver's side window. Request that the single OEM provided visor which will pivot to cover either the side window or drivers side of the windshield be accepted. | The first sentence of this section is changed to read: Adjustable OEM sun visors shall be provided for the front windshield; at a minimum, the driver-side visor shall pivot to cover the side window when needed. |
| 3.3.16.1 | |||
| 65 | SMD | Complete vehicle warranty: We request that this section be amended to replicate this same section for the LD/MD vehicles where it states, "the complete body conversion to be warranted for 12 months or 12,000 miles whichever comes first." Chassis warranty is addressed under section 5.3.3 | The first sentence of this section is changed to read: The complete body conversion is warranted to be free from defects for 12 months or 12,000 miles, whichever comes first, beginning on the date of acceptance, or conditional acceptance of each bus. |
| 5.3.2 | |||
| 66 | SMD | States that body structure and elements to be warranted for nine years or 200,000 miles. Request that this be amended to read the same as the LD/MD vehicles under section 5.3.4 where it states 5 years or 100,000. The body manufacturer’s warranty is the same for LD/MD and SMD bodies and construction is the same. | The first sentence in this section is changed to read: The body structure and all structural elements of the vehicle are warranted to be free from defects and to maintain structural integrity for five years or 100,000 miles. |
| 5.3.4 | |||
| 67 | SMD | Wheelchair lift warranty: Suggest this be amended to read the same as the LD/MD specifications for the same section which was updated in previous bid. | The fifth line in section 5.3.5 is changed to read: Wheelchair Lift - Labor and covered parts warranty of 3 years/10,000 cycles and power train warranty for 5 years/15,000 cycles. |
| 5.3.5 | |||
| Also, in section 3.5.2.2 the lifting capacity of the lift is changed from 800 to 1,000 pound rated lifting capacity. | |||
| SMD | |||
| 3.5.2.2 (change added by IDOT) | |||
| MINIVAN | |||
| 68 | MV | Specifications as issued outlines a "Safety Package" to be included. The package as described does not exist in the current 2023 or 2024 model year Voyager. What is offered is a 7" touch screen display, full speed forward collision warning, Bluetooth hands free phone and audio, Parkview back up camera and pedestrian emergency braking. The following are not available as specified. 4gWi-Fi hot spot, advanced brake assist, blind spot and rr cross path detection, GPS navigation, upgraded radio and parking assist. We request that what the OEM offers as a safety package as described above be accepted. | Item “D” in this section is changed to read: Base Safety Package as provided by the OEM to include such features as applicable: screen display, collision warning, Bluetooth hands free phone and audio, back up camera, pedestrian emergency braking, etc. |
| 1.1.6 -D | |||
| 69 | MV | States that seated load and gross load be calculated with 175 lbs. for every seated passenger and 300 lbs. for each wheelchair location. We request that this be reduced to 150 lbs. for each seated passengers and 250 lbs., for each mobility. This is the industry standard that has been used for years and all FMVSS testing/certification and documentation are based on these numbers. | Section 1.2.1.3. is changed to read: S L. (Seated Load). 150 lbs. for every passenger seating position and for the driver, and 250 lbs. for each wheelchair or mobility aid securement location provided. |
| 1.2.1.3 / 1.2.1.4 | |||
| Section 1.2.1.4. is changed to read: Gross Load. 150 lbs. for every passenger seating position and for the driver, and 250 lbs. for each wheelchair or mobility aid securement location provided. | |||
| 70 | MV | States that model year production to be 2022 or later. We recommend that this be changed to represent the current model year offering of 2023 or newer. This would eliminate the possibility of outdated old inventory chassis being offered. | This section is changed to read: model year 2023 or later. |
| 1.5.6.1 | |||
| 71 | MV | Specification calls out a anti-theft catalytic converter system. The OEM chassis manufacturer has located the catalytic converters in a location that is not easily accessible for theft. Instead of being under the vehicle, the catalytic converter is located in the engine compartment and directly off the header. For anyone to attempt to steal it would require them to cut through several pieces of the van including the structure and K-member. In addition, because it is in the engine compartment, there is no way to add additional protection, nor is it needed. Request that OEM installation and location of catalytic converter as supplied by OEM be accepted with no further additional safety requirements. | The third and subsequent sentences of this section are changed to read: The exhaust system shall be fitted with a device to deter theft of the catalytic converter only if the converter is located under the vehicle. If applicable, the device shall not require custom tools for installation, shall allow heat to dissipate normally from the converter, shall be manufactured from non-corrosion materials and shall not require maintenance for the life of the vehicle. Design of the catalytic converter anti-theft device if applicable should be provided with bid submittal. |
| 2.2.5.1 |
This is the start of the file's text. The full file is on GovTribe.
File details come from the government source that posted it. Updated .