MIL-STD-188-165B C1 Industry Meeting RFI v3.1.docx
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This Request for Information (RFI) from the Defense Information Systems Agency solicits industry feedback on Change 1 to Military Standard 188-165B regarding modem specifications. It requests presentations and written responses by July 21st and August 28th, respectively, to inform adjustments to areas like modem demodulator internal noise floor levels. The RFI seeks to understand any impacts of reducing modem and terminal receive noise floors, including issues with legacy equipment. It does not obligate the government to any contracts. An Industry Day meeting will be held August 8th-11th in Colorado Springs to discuss responses, with registration due by July 28th.
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UNCLASSIFIED
DEFENSE INFORMATION SYSTEMS AGENCY
Request for Information (RFI)
Industry Day for Change 1 of
MIL-STD-188-165B
THIS IS A REQUEST FOR INFORMATION (RFI) ONLY. THIS IS NOT A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS. NO SOLITICIATION IS AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME.
UNCLASSIFIED
Description
REQUEST FOR INFORMATION (RFI)
REQUIREMENT
THIS IS A REQUEST FOR INFORMATION (RFI) ONLY. THIS IS NOT A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS. NO SOLICITIATION IS AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME.
1.0 Overview/Purpose
The Department of Defense (DoD) is soliciting industry to provide comments on the MIL-STD-188-165B Change 1 Draft and prepare responses to satisfy unique DoD requirements for the Draft. Responses should include, but are not limited to, specification adjustments in the following area of interest: 1) Modem Demodulator Internal Noise Floor.
2.0 Scope of Effort
This RFI request is solely for gathering information and planning purposes. This RFI does not commit the U.S. Government to contract for any services or supplies whatsoever. All are advised that the U.S. Government will not pay for any information or administrative costs incurred in response to this RFI; all costs associated with responding to this RFI will be solely at the interested party’s expense. Not responding to this RFI does not preclude participation in any future solicitations or requests for proposal (RFPs).
3.0 Technical Characteristics
The continuing evolution of modem capabilities presents a number of challenges to developing relevant and useful modem design requirements. When MIL-STD 188- 165 was first written, the preponderance of modems consisted of a limited set of modems with very few modulation and coding capabilities. This is no longer the case. In recognition of this, a number of adjustments have been made in the Draft for MIL-STD 188-165B/C1. In the process of drafting the changes for the MIL-STD, a number of areas have been identified where additional investigation is necessary to craft a useful MIL-STD. In the interest of issuing meaningful guidance as soon as possible, it has been decided to pursue issuing MIL-STD 188-165B in the near future while simultaneously investigating various areas of interest with the intent of including any updates to those areas in a future release.
4.0 Requested Information
· Modem Demodulator Internal Noise Floor: The existing MIL-STD 188-165B specifies a modem’s demodulator noise floor (5.6.5) as -130 dBm/Hz and the existing MIL-STD 188-164C specifies the terminal’s noise floor at the input of the demodulator (4.3.3.1) as -113 dBm/Hz. The discussion is the impact of moving the modem’s demodulator internal noise floor to -147 dBm/Hz and the terminal’s noise floor at the input of the demodulator to -130 dBm/Hz. The modem minimum IF carrier power level (5.6.4.1.1) will also be reduced by 17 dB.
Pmin = -130 dBm/Hz + ES/N0 + 10 log RS Demodulator noise floor was not collected during certification of legacy modems. Industry should report any modems in active use whose demodulator internal noise floor is -147 dBm/Hz or higher. This information will be used to understand interoperability with legacy modems when the terminal noise floor is reduced. No adverse certification actions will be taken against already-certified modems in response to this RFI.
Industry should also report any other anticipated impact of reducing modem and terminal receive noise floors to the specified levels, or of reducing the modem noise floor to the specified level and not changing the terminal noise floor.
Response Guidelines DISA requests that those wishing to provide a presentation at the meeting send in their presentation title and slides to the POCs below no later than Friday 21 July 2023. Presentations are to be kept to 20 minutes in duration.
Industry Day Discussions Specific details for the MIL-STD-188-165 Industry Meeting are as follows:
Dates: Tuesday, 8th August 2023 to Friday, 11th August 2023
Times: Meeting times each day are as follows:
08 August: 0900 – 1700* 09 August: 0915 – 1700 10 August: 0915 – 1700 11 August: 1015 – 1500
*Includes attendee registration from 0930 – 1000
Location: The Hall at PPLD, 20 W. Pikes Peak Ave. Colorado Springs, CO 80903. https://ppld.org/the-hall-at-ppld
Dress: Business Casual Teleconference Bridge: A teleconference bridge will not be available.
RSVP: The deadline for attendees to RSVP for the meeting is Friday 28 July 2023. Please RSVP at https://einvitations.afit.edu/inv/index.cfm?i=772685&k=0566400F7352 Attachments The following attachments are included to support this request:
1. Clean Draft
2. Comparison to published MIL-STD for reference Points Of Contact (POCs) POC: Henry Tran Organization: DISA Phone: 301-225-7496 Email: henry.h.tran.civ@mail.mil
POC: Jeremy Kozee Organization: Delta 8 SATCOM Wideband E&I Phone: 719-554-8835 Email: jeremy.kozee@spaceforce.mil
POC: Pamela Phillips Organization: Delta 8 SATCOM Wideband E&I Phone: 719-554-2002 Email: pamela.phillips.5@spaceforce.mil Disclaimer This RFI is issued for information and planning purposes only.
THE GOVERNMENT DOES NOT INTEND TO AWARD A CONTRACT ON THE BASIS OF THE RFI OR OTHERWISE PAY FOR INFORMATION RECEIVED IN RESPONSES TO THE RFI.
Proprietary information and trade secrets, if any, must be clearly marked on all materials. All information received that is marked Proprietary will be safeguarded in accordance with the applicable Government regulations. Please be advised that all submissions become Government property and will not be returned. The Government shall not be liable for or suffer any consequential damages for any proprietary information not properly identified. All government and contractor personnel reviewing RFI responses will have signed non-disclosure agreements and understand their responsibility for proper use and protection from unauthorized disclosure of proprietary information as described 41 USC 423.
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