Enterprise Dredge Delivery Center Virtual Industry Day-20260909_130421-Meeting Transcript.pdf

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Shoemaker, Rosalind M CIV USARMY CESAW (USA)

Okay, I think I've heard the stopping of all the beeps. Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for attending today. This is the industry day for the USACE Enterprise Dredge and

Delivery Center.

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Shoemaker, Rosalind M CIV USARMY CESAW (USA)

Hopefully you can all see my screen. I'm only going to keep my camera on for a couple minutes at the beginning because I'm having some connectivity issues.

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Shoemaker, Rosalind M CIV USARMY CESAW (USA)

But I want to thank everyone for attending today. We're going to go through, sorry, I have this on the wrong screen.

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Shoemaker, Rosalind M CIV USARMY CESAW (USA)

We're going to go through the agenda. So we'll do some and talk over our three different procurement strategies that we want to discuss with everybody today and then leave things open at the end for questions.

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Shoemaker, Rosalind M CIV USARMY CESAW (USA)

And so we have three different procurement strategies. I'm going to go ahead and turn my camera off so that this would maybe help. Sorry, we have three different procurement strategies that we're going to be talking about today. One, the first one is the hopper contracts. These contracts are going to be

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Here.

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Shoemaker, Rosalind M CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) somewhat similar to what you've all seen in the past, where we're doing IFBs, invitation for bids. But what is different is we're combining and consolidating some different projects together.

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And when we sent out the industry day notice, we included our proposed pairings, but we definitely want to get feedback from industry. I'm going to turn things over to Dylan

Davis, the project manager for this project. But I do want to also mention that for all three of these projects, we still have sources sought notices out.

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Shoemaker, Rosalind M CIV USARMY CESAW (USA)

The responses are due Friday.

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Shoemaker, Rosalind M CIV USARMY CESAW (USA)

And we also have another industry day set up, another virtual industry day set up for

October 16th for our scope budget. So I'm going to turn this over to Dylan Davis to talk a little bit more about the Hopper contracts, and then we'll talk about the remaining types of contracts after that.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

All right, thanks, Roz. I'm going to pull up some slides real quick just to...

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

Can you see those okay?

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

Yes. Great. Okay. So for those who don't know me, I'm Dylan Davis. I'm our coastal program manager here at the South Atlantic Division in my normal capacity. I am on a temporary assignment to work to stand up this

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) this center that we're going to talk a little bit about. And we have a team, many of them are on the line today that we've assembled across the core. We're calling ourselves the

DEEP team. So you may hear that referred to. Again, we love our acronyms and we love turning them into words. So what that stands for, just so folks know, it's the

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) dredging evolution for enterprise delivery or enterprise production, sorry. So that's the team that is working on this. So there's kind of two efforts here. There's a team that's starting all of this going and getting this center stood up that ultimately will be handed over.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) for implementation in the future. And I'll give a brief overview of those things as we go.

But I do want to for a second turn the floor over to Erica Janoka to just give us a kind of a headquarters perspective of what we're doing and where all of this is coming from, Erica.

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Janocha, Erica A CIV USARMY CEHQ (USA)

Can you see or hear? Yes. Thank you, Dylan. I appreciate it. Like Dylan said, hi, everybody. I'm Erica Genoka. I'm the dredging program manager at USACE's headquarters. I just want to start by providing a little context as to why we're here and what we're hoping to accomplish through today's engagement. So the changes

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Popkin, Breann K CIV USARMY CEMVR (USA)

Yes. Perfect.

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Janocha, Erica A CIV USARMY CEHQ (USA) that we're discussing are part of a much broader administration-driven effort to improve how the Army Corps is delivering its dredging mission. And it directly supports the ASA's

Building Infrastructure, Not Paperwork initiative. So for the dredging program, that means we're taking a hard look at how we can better leverage our requirements across the enterprise.

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Janocha, Erica A CIV USARMY CEHQ (USA) and use consolidated buying power to pursue some innovative smarter contracting, as we've been referring to it, hoping to improve efficiency, predictability, and ultimately the delivery of the navigation mission. I also want to emphasize that this represents a significant change for USACE as a whole as well.

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Janocha, Erica A CIV USARMY CEHQ (USA) internally. Our districts, divisions, our contracting teams, and headquarters were all working together through this transition. So we recognize that, you know, the changes in how we package and procure them are going to, and how we execute the dredging work is going to have real implications for industry as well. And that's exactly why we're here today, to engage with you guys early and to do it often.

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Janocha, Erica A CIV USARMY CEHQ (USA)

We view industry as a critical partner, and we need your help in helping make this successful. And today is intended to be a genuine exchange where we want to communicate. We want your feedback. We want you to hear where we're headed. We want your concerns and your ideas, and we want to identify potential challenges early.

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Janocha, Erica A CIV USARMY CEHQ (USA)

So we will be using your feedback and we'll continue to develop our ideas and approaches from these engagements. So with that, I'm going to go ahead and kick it back over to Dylan and he'll walk you through the details of everything. And really looking forward to the discussion. Thanks, Dylan.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

All right, I appreciate that, Erica. Yeah, so before we dive into some of the details, just giving folks kind of an overview of where we're at. We initially talked at the National

Dredge Meeting was the last time where General Kelly started laying out some of these concepts and ideas.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

And over the last couple of months, we've tried to refine it and get us to a phased approach of implementing all of this work. So really, back in July is when we officially kicked everything off. This is where we started establishing this national team that I talked about.

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From there, we started looking internally on what we can do to start standardizing some of our work and developing internal processes to, again, interact with our districts and this soon to be center that is being developed. From there, we started laying out how are we going to make this transition to

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) getting all of this work through the center. And we basically started with year one coming up, looking at three procurement options. And this is what we're going to spend a lot of the time talking about today. But again, these are the hopper work, the small business may talk and the scope dredge to budget. Then we move into year two. That is when the goal of having the actual center

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) stand up, stood up. From that point on, that is where we will have all contracts, dredging contracts, begin filtering through this center in a centralized manner. So we will have brought on hoppers and small business in year one. In year two, we're looking to add in our large pipeline and bucket work.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) get any finalized guidance coming in from our headquarters on how this center will be run, and then ultimately getting into a FY29 year three and beyond, steady state. At that point, we tie up any loose ends, any kind of non-routine work that we have out there, any kind of earmarks that come in.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) from the Congress that are non-routine. And then we'll look to incorporate the 8A program as well. But all of this with the goal of being that all dredging contracts will be managed through this center. You know, it varies any given year.

0:9:18.217 --> 0:9:29.577 but that's looking at approximately 190 contracts a year and about 210 million cubic yards a year that will be run through this center.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

Diving in a little bit of what this team is doing in this year one before we actually move into full implementation of the center. So again, we talked about this initiation of the work. We hold our kickoff meeting.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) back in Mobile in August, pulling the team together and then establishing, you know, all of the battle rhythm that we're going to talk about here today to include engagement with industry. As Erica said, we remain committed to engaging with industry on this.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

I think a lot of the discussions we've had over the years, industry is, you know, we drop things on you and say, figure it out. I want to reiterate that y'all are very much a part of this process very, very early, as early as many people in the core are even part of it as well. So that remains our commitment to continue to work through

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) all of these things with industry. So we do have a couple of things that are coming on in the future engagements that we're tracking. Following this kickoff or this industry day with all of you, we do plan on having face-to-face hopper meetings.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

Those invitations have been sent out, that happening at the end of September. We are then also planning on doing a virtual specific to scope dredge to budget discussion on

16 October with a follow on scope dredge to budget face to face the week of the 2nd of

November.

0:11:13.657 --> 0:11:34.377 in Galveston prior to the WEDA golf meeting. Just the timing obviously made a lot of sense for us to meet down there. And with what we're talking about, the scope of that, that scope to judge budget concept being. There will be also follow on and Joshua leading our small business team will talk

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) a little bit about that, but there are then also discussions of when the appropriate time to then start having similar types of engagements with the small business community.

So some of the other things Erica talked about, you know, we are looking internally. This isn't just an external acquisition. We are looking to centralize and standardize our dredging contracts across USACE.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) getting at things where we see differences across districts or divisions that maybe shouldn't be there. We are very much looking to come up with what I'm calling the perfect spec. We're utilizing AI models to help us quickly move through that.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

And then we do have some folks on the phone that will show some of the other things that we're not that we're using with ERDC as well. So our ERDC folks are very engaged with helping us come up with ways to rapidly streamline a lot of this work. But one of those is utilizing the AI models for

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) for our spec generation. So we are also looking at streamlined approaches to some of our internal reviews and processes to help us get these jobs out quicker. We hear quite often, you know, it seems like it's taking forever. You told us about this job eight months ago, and we're still not seeing anything.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) associated with it. This is a hope that we will be able to, again, get some of those internal processes cleared away and then be able to move to getting the jobs out quicker. So here's kind of the breakdown the rest of the year. You know, we're the first one we're looking to

0:13:20.377 --> 0:13:40.777 issue hopper contracts. We've taken the national list that we project for the upcoming year. Things that haven't been awarded, you know, very recently, but those happening starting probably in the really late first quarter, early second quarter, and what are opportunities that we can look to consolidate and maybe

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) move in more efficient manager, efficient manner. Again, those quick breakdowns, and we'll go into the details in a second, but are looking at our nav entrances and our CSRM hopper work. From there, we'll move into the scope dredge budget discussion. That is essentially the

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) the Galveston AOR dredging program that we are looking to combine into one solicitation and move forward with that. And then finally, looking to at the end of the year, do a National Small Business May Talk five year that will cover

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) basically all the projects that we expect to see nationally that would fall under that small business category. Again, potentially up to 250 to 300 projects included. We don't do that many a year, but we're trying to capture the entire scope.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

And then at the conclusion of that, we will then turn it over and to the new center that is being established, and they will take the efforts that we've tried to build, the foundations we've tried to build, and take that and incorporate that moving forward. So that's

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

Just a quick rundown of what we've been working so far, kind of the follow up for the initial discussion that was given at the National Dredge Meeting. And this is what the team has been working on and coming up with as our first tasks. I will pause there before we maybe talk some of the details of each of the three

0:15:25.737 --> 0:15:40.697 groups. Does anybody, and I can't see the chat, but is there anything there? And if you would raise your hand, that way we can kind of keep a little order if there are questions.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

All right. Hearing none, and I'll pause in future to talk about that too. Actually, one other point I did want to say, we are looking to do some other things to help with communication. We recognize this is a large effort. Roz and Terry had their information on the other slide.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

And I'm guessing we'll put these out there for folks. But you have their information with direct questions. We are also in the process of establishing kind of a centralized mailbox for this effort. That way, folks, as questions and comments come in, you're not having to figure out who do I ask, who do I send an e-mail to.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

There will be a centralized e-mail put out there and that will allow you to get it into us and then the right person can be able to address the comment to you.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

So, um, we'll start with this is the first, uh, the...

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

The first group, the first task that we're looking at doing, this is our hopper group.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

Sorry, will the small business may talk assume the proposed new standards will be adopted? Yes, we're looking, if I understand the question correctly, the intent is that we will be developing A standardized set of plans and specs. And except for those, you know, very site-specific things, 0:17:19.97 --> 0:17:40.697 they will be, you will see standardization throughout. One of the big examples I like to use is our safety spec. You know, we're all governed by EM385-1-1 or OSHA. There really should not be a difference in the way that specs looks from

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) one place to the next. But I all think, I think we all know that that is not the case and they are different. And so those are the kind of things that definitely where there is that standardization that should happen, we will do it. And that will be coastal, that will be inland, that will be all.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) dredging that we see across the board.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

And yes, Bill, I said there will be one contract. And actually, I think my slide might have had a little bit off. The dollar amount is a little higher, but yes, it is one contract for the

Galveston work. So here's our hopper list. This is what we have projected going. You see the dates in here.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

These are our expected timelines that we're looking to do it, the expected period of performance, you know, the typical types of dredging that we see, work on this work, and the quantities that we put to it. And so what we tried to do was walk through these different projects, combine

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) types of work, you know, nuances and things like that. We also then looked at, you know, time of year when the work needed to occur. We tried to sequence that such that, you know, we weren't trying to jam too many things into one time frame, but rather try to extend that over.

0:19:11.257 --> 0:19:30.377 a longer period of time. And again, so this is the groupings that we have come up with. I will put a note in there. One of the other things that we talked about was, or that we have started using is we have a tool that has been developed, an optimization tool out of ERDC.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) that basically will look at these projects and the fleet and start making runs, model runs, to try and provide with us insight in maybe where some of the best consolidations might occur, helping to inform

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) you know, the decisions that were made. So that has been a pretty, I'll say, eye-opening tool. You know, there's some of it that tells us what we would expect to see, and then there's others, there are other runs that tell us a little different. But what's interesting is then it just, you know, it sheds insight when we find out why it told us that way.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

It maybe brings into things that either are problems with our data that we need to fix, or they gives us insights that we just maybe hadn't thought about before. So we're trying to rely on some of these other tools to help inform our decision making as we're moving forward with these groupings.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

But with the idea being trying to, you know, make these projects more attractive, make them more efficient, as I think many of you in the Hopper world have heard me talk about this before. We believe this is just a good way to efficiently get work done.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

And we have lots of examples of where we see savings occur. And so this is us taking this approach from isolated pockets to looking at it from a more national approach.

Before I open up to questions, Roz, anything from your perspective from an acquisition standpoint that folks

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) should be aware of or need to be tracking.

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Shoemaker, Rosalind M CIV USARMY CESAW (USA)

Nothing that I can think of right now. You know, just be continuing to monitor Sam.gov.

That's our point of entry where we'll be posting any solicitations. And we'll be, these will be coming up on us fairly quickly. We have a pretty aggressive schedule. So we'll be posting the pre-solicitation notices and things like that.

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Shoemaker, Rosalind M CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) as the projects are moving forward.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

So just for just for clarification, too, Roz is the contracting officer for all of these efforts.

So she's got a got a heavy lift in front of her. But I think we all know those who know her have all the faith that that will go off great. But she will be the K on on all of these.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) contracts, correct, Ross? Can I say that? Incorrect.

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Shoemaker, Rosalind M CIV USARMY CESAW (USA)

That is correct. And I've got a team working with me of contract specialist. Right now, primarily the primary POCs for the source of sought notices is myself and Terry Adams.

We'll give you our emails again at the end. But yep, I'm going to be the primary KO on all the actions.

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Okay, great. Thank you. So I'll open up to questions, but I see there's one in the chat already. They are open to all. We don't necessarily prohibit work from being done, but we also know these jobs set up a certain kind of way. They have historically

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) been done with hoppers and the requirements associated with them kind of lead to a hopper. But if folks can figure out a better way, as I joke, if we want to send divers down with spoons and baggies and that's the way that we can get it get it dredged and that's the way to do it, we'll

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

Will will allow for that, but we just we have a lot of history that shows that these are these are likely gonna be up.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

So exclude companies. It will not exclude companies because we will not, we will not dictate the means. We just, like I said, we know that these tend to be tend to be hoppers.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

Any other?

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

Okay.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

I don't want to run too fast, but I will go. And if we have time at the end too, we can certainly come back to any questions. I know we're throwing a lot at you right here. And as I said, there'll be time after this, but then there will be follow on, more face-to-face, more focused discussions with all of these as well.

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Will the pre-solicitation notices go out before the base step base?

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I will, I will.

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Shoemaker, Rosalind M CIV USARMY CESAW (USA)

Turn that one over to Ross. So that is a good question. Yeah. I do not anticipate that.

There's a chance with our first two hopper group pairings because those schedules are pretty aggressive, but I don't believe that the pre-solicitation notices are going to go out before our first face-to-face meetings at the end of this month.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

Because I think I know the answer, but...

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Janocha, Erica A CIV USARMY CEHQ (USA)

Hey, this is Erica. So I want to say in getting these groupings, we had used an optimization modeling through ERDC. And so some of the groupings may be a little different than what

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Janocha, Erica A CIV USARMY CEHQ (USA)

You.

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Janocha, Erica A CIV USARMY CEHQ (USA) may have seen, but Bill, specifically to your question, we do, we will take input on groupings.

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Janocha, Erica A CIV USARMY CEHQ (USA)

But if you have...

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Janocha, Erica A CIV USARMY CEHQ (USA) some information you'd like to talk about with that, you know, this would be the time to discuss it.

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And I'll add a little bit of the thought process of why we went the way we did. Again, the timing of Thimble and Jack's Harbor needing to move out quicker on those two items.

Again, similar in nature, how they are done.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

And then the Mayport Kings Bay was actually combining the Navy. Those are both Navy projects, Navy funded, and from a just a priorities and ensure happens, we wanted to group those together. So that was that was kind of the logic and why we went with with them.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

We did have some combinations, as Eric said, of the model that did propose some pieces of this. But ultimately, we thought that it was better to go ensure, again, the Navy jobs stuck together.

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Janocha, Erica A CIV USARMY CEHQ (USA)

And Frank, to your question, will we be setting up meetings with companies who don't own Hopper dredges? The answer is yes. Our face-to-face that we're having at the end of the month is for Hopper specifically based on this Hopper plan that we have here. But we will have

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Popkin, Breann K CIV USARMY CEMVR (USA)

Mm.

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Janocha, Erica A CIV USARMY CEHQ (USA) face-to-face with non-hopper owning companies when we do our face-to-face in

Galveston for the scope dredge to budget.

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Okay.

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Go to the next.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

So here is our scope dredge to budget concept. So what this is doing is it is looking at, and yeah, see, I was off on my numbers. I apologize. I'll get that slide updated on the other one before we get it out. But

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

We are looking at changing, going to a different way of thinking about how we may maintain some of these projects and the scope dredge to budget, or for those of you who have maybe been involved in other construction aspects, particularly that may

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) you know, be more under military nature side of the house or the shore side of the house, the design, build or maybe even lesser known design, build a budget concept, which instead of us telling you to go out and, you know, dig a million cubic yards at this one location, 0:28:49.977 --> 0:29:8.377

Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) we in turn maybe change the way we look at it and say, here's how much money we have, and you tell us how much you can do. And maybe contractor Ace says, well, with my shovel, I can go out there and dig a million cubic yards. And then contractor B says, well, but I can dig it with

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) you know, for that same amount of money, I can dig it with or dig a million and a half cubic yards and so forth and so on. And so it changes the way we look at this from a just go out there and do this very specific thing to putting more of the innovation side on contractors and allowing them to

0:29:30.177 --> 0:29:45.497 figure out the best way that they think they could come and do this work. And so we are proposing that we are looking at a, again, as was said, one.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) one contract. And what we are the concept is, again, here's where we're talking. We have about $190 million. We historically dredge about 25 million cubic yards from these areas. And so the concept is for this $190 million, we're going to basically go to

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) to industry and say, how can you maintain these channels to authorize dimensions the longest? And so what we're looking at is for you to basically determine with your equipment or with groupings of equipment how you can handle

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) and go after these projects to ensure navigability. And then ultimately what we're looking for is who can achieve that navigability the longest. Again, we focus on cubic yardage as the surrogate for navigability, but

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

But really what we hope for is keeping those channels to the dimensions and just putting out a contract for a million cubic yards doesn't necessarily achieve that in all cases. And so again, this is just a shift in how we're trying to think about maybe better ways to incentivize innovation.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

And instead of telling judges how to do it, you tell us how you are going to do it and how you think the best way would be to attack this scenario. Coupling that with that it's large, obviously, hoping to incentivize it, to have folks make investment, to have folks

0:31:28.337 --> 0:31:48.737 work with other partners and trying to achieve that through joint ventures or other prime subcontractor means. But again, instead of us dictating, we're looking for industry to propose how they might do it. There's no uncertainty of when.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

Her.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

When these, or there's not uncertainty of funding, are these funded or not? Again, contractor knows, you know, what if I have an overrun? What if I have underrun? All those things, that's not, you know, those uncertainties are taken out of it. You know, at the end of the day, 0:32:10.697 --> 0:32:30.977

Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) the funding will be there. Obviously, this comes with a change for us. It's a change for y'all as well in how you think of this. Some of the things that we're talking about are what do we need to provide to industry to let y'all know these things. And Ned, this is your maybe

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

30 minute or 30 second warning to pull up your information, but what are things out there that you would need from the core to make industry comfortable enough to know what this is? We have things out there and we're about to show one of them, you know, that that.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) we can provide it. You technically already actually have access to it. But, you know, we have all of our hydrographic surveys on our eHydro website. We have a CSAT, which is our core shoaling analysis tool that does some projections and looks at historical, you know, averages and

0:33:11.697 --> 0:33:22.657 at different time frames. And so these are all the things that we're thinking are going to lead into providing to industry to help you all be able to map out what this might look like.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

Go ahead, Chuck.

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Chuck

Hey, Dylan, how are you going to handle the beneficial use aspects of some of these projects versus the concentration just on navigation? But, you know, how do you envision the beneficial use of material playing a role in this?

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

So I think that would just be part of the, we want you to maintain and here are your placement options. But without, you know, getting myself in too much trouble, at the end of the day, the mission is navigation. And so beneficial use is the opportunity. And so if what we're able to do is

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) is maintain and provide the best navigable channels. I think that's got to be our priority.

And then where that dovetails and marries with beneficial use, I think that's just even that much better of a win. But you know, we but for those beneficial use sites that.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) are just kind of routine, you know, that is the site, that is the location, those would be offered up as opportunities for placement.

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Chuck

Gotcha. Thank you for that. And while I have you, one more question. As far as who prioritizes or basically will articulate the performance criteria of this solicitation? Like how is it ultimately going to be evaluated?

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Yeah, so we're still working through the criteria and it's actually something that we're interested to hear back from industry on, you know, as we're talking through some of this stuff with you. You know, we talked about providing navigability the longest, you know, whether it be

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) you know, nine months, a year, maybe you can figure out, you know, you know what, for this same amount of money, I can keep all these things good for 10 years. That's going to be the probably predominant criteria that will be used for the selection. There are some other smaller components that will be included in that as well.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) you know, schedules, management plans, things like that that are kind of kind of routine to any kind of real RFP. But I think where we're leaning right now being, you know, the longest navigability is maintained being the primary criteria. Thank you.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) but subject to comments and ideas on this as well.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

Hey, Frank, go ahead.

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Frank Belesimo

Hi, Dylan. How are you doing? Hope you're doing well. Our question has to do...

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

Fantastic.

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Frank Belesimo

Thanks. Our question has to do with survey. We can get our head around the dredge to budget scope. Monitoring and identifying areas throughout the year that need attention is an interesting concept. And if you compare

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Frank Belesimo the breadth of the core's survey capabilities to any individual company. Obviously, the core can cover greater geographic area. So how do you contemplate that monitoring and knowing when one of these locations has an issue?

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Frank Belesimo

How does that work?

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

Sure, yeah. I think I think we're we don't honestly totally know, but in kind of just thinking through it a little bit, as you point out, I mean, we do have a survey, robust survey capabilities in most of our districts. And so the ability to have them continue

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) to run surveys, to continue to track the channel is certainly a likely option and providing that information to the contractor basically as we're doing it. We obviously have a two-fold

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

You know need for that a where we wanna we wanna you know just track the channel for for our users, but then we also want to be able to to know from a from a contractual standpoint, are we are we meeting that stuff? So I I, but I also see there's probably a shared shared part to that as well. You know, again, if the contractor.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) is on contract, you know, what are they doing? So maybe it's us running routine, we see something, then contractor verifies something of that nature. But those are those are some of the details and the weeds that we're still still working out and are and are open to hearing. Thank you.

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Harry, I think you're up next.

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Harry Stewart

Hi, Dylan. Question. We're accustomed to seeing projects like these shown on the slide of being funded annually. You're showing a total of 190. Could you talk about what the shelf life is of that 190 and what happens year after year after year in this type of program? How does that work?

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

Sure. So this is our annual funding. And so this is the amount of money that, you know, more or less, you know, plus or minus a couple of nickels here or there that we can contribute to this contract. But as you say, you know, this, we put this on an annual basis.

And so

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) we would expect to get something potentially similar next year. But then, but then the question becomes, well, if we start seeing that, you know, this money is buying us more time, maybe it allows us to adjust our budget request accordingly. At the end of the day, our funding does not expire in the civil work side of the house. So

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

For those who have worked under the Navy side or the military side, they typically have one or two year funding. And so, you know, they are very focused on getting their stuff executed. We have a little more flexibility. So obviously the money is given on an annual basis. It is very much encouraged to be

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) utilized on that annual basis, but it does not disappear or go away if, you know, if we award the contract on October 1 versus September 30th.

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Harry Stewart

Thank you, Dylan.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

Okay, great, thanks.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

Do, I think Bill, you said, do any of these projects include hopper work or is it all pipeline dredging? It is all a mix of everything. So this is where there are a lot of potential combinations that could be used.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) to do this work, sizes, types. Again, we're leaving all of that on the table and not being prescriptive in doing that.

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Janocha, Erica A CIV USARMY CEHQ (USA)

Ross, do you want to address James' question in the chat?

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Shoemaker, Rosalind M CIV USARMY CESAW (USA)

Yeah, so it is not going to be an IDIQ. It's going to be a firm fixed price contract. This solicitation is going to be consolidated. So we're working on the documentation for consolidating the different channels.

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Shoemaker, Rosalind M CIV USARMY CESAW (USA)

It is going to be, it's going to be a trade-off. It's going to be worded as a trade-off. It's going to be a two-phase scope build the budget. So your first phase, you know, our draft criteria are pretty basic. It's usually proof of bonding capacity, past performance, and your proposed plan.

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And then we down select to three to five vendors to go to phase two. And then phase two is where the more detailed information would be provided by the contractor. And we would evaluate those proposals. And the criteria you're graded on.

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Shoemaker, Rosalind M CIV USARMY CESAW (USA)

That we we put that in the draft.

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Shoemaker, Rosalind M CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) synopsis here for the industry day notice, and we're definitely open to getting feedback on those different criteria for the evaluation factors. As far as if the solicitation is going to have a hierarchy and what channel to prioritize, Dylan, that might be a question for you.

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Shoemaker, Rosalind M CIV USARMY CESAW (USA)

Don't believe so.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

Come on, Roz, I was going to let you handle that one.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

We are talking about that. I think, so to kind of maybe back and Bill Doyle, this is for you. You know, if something happens in the middle of year K, then yes, the expectation would be to have the contractor go back. Again, the idea being that these channels would be maintained through that, whatever that

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) period of the winning contractor or contractors was. But we also recognize that there may be things where we have to adjust, i.e. hurricanes, things like that, where we need to be able to say, okay, well, this is outside of normal.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

But the idea being that we would provide the historical information to kind of determine what the range of normal is. And then at that point, you know, if contractor says it's I can maintain it for nine months and they dredge it in month one, and then there's an issue in month 8, then yes, it would it would require.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

Uh, the contractor come back, but but we are we are already thinking about for those non-natural events.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

I guess a hurricane is technically natural, but non, you know, not normal type of things or extreme events, if you will.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

So how does competition fit into this model after one dread cycling? This is Jacob. So, you know, we're piloting this out now. We're trying to see how this will work. So I would say, because it's also not just a...

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) the cutters. I think there is an opportunity to change makeup of how this gets done in the future. Maybe there's different groupings, maybe there's different contractors that want to work together. I think that is

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) the idea that we are trying this and then learning from it and seeing what are opportunities for us moving forward to do this work.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

Environmental reporting requirements. So we will have a little bit of both, but that is one of the things that we are looking to try and consolidate as well. For most of, or a lot of you know, at least for the Gulf, we have a regional biological opinion for which all of these projects fall under.

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The projects in New Orleans, Mobile, and Jacksonville on the West Coast all fall under that same thing as well. And so in an effort to standardize and streamline, you know, they all work under one biop, so there really shouldn't be a whole lot of difference from that aspect. Obviously, there's local requirements.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) that may state requirements that may happen. And in those cases, those reporting will have to be discussed. I will say there's another little side benefit, I think. There's a lot of these kind of restrictions that we do not necessarily always see at the enterprise level.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) that I think when we start working under this larger approach become visible. And so those are things that we then can start saying, well, wait, why do we have this little restriction on this project over here? It's not any different over than, you know, these other projects. And so there is an opportunity to start asking questions of like, why do we have

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) these little restrictions that ultimately are hindering us. It may be the bottleneck that we see throughout the enterprise as far as getting worked on. And so where we can, we will try and consolidate those reporting requirements.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

And then when we do have those kind of local requirements, we will highlight those and then I think follow-on actions will seek to understand what we are doing with those and is that in the best interest of the enterprise.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

This impact current FY 22nd projects on DIS. Yeah, so as far as we are looking and I know we have Belinda on the line and she can help me on this, but I don't, you tell me which project is, but like our.

0:46:59.17 --> 0:47:17.777 first grouping of project need based on a historical basis is happening in the April-May timeframe. And so anything that's basically looking to happen now or has just happened or within the next month or so.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

That will continue to be put out. And so this is all looking for any work that is starting in that kind of spring timeframe in 27 and then moving forward from there.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

I like the little thumbs up that y'all are putting in. That's helpful. Thank you.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

Yeah, I'm doing that so you know which question you're getting to because it was getting pretty busy in there. Okay, yeah. Okay, is the period of performance for this scope a single FY? Well, that's kind of the interesting question, Mike, is you get to talk.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

Yeah.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) tell us what the period of performance is. Maybe the period of performance is, you know, for Davis Dredging Company is, you know, six months, but for you, it's nine months. And so nine months is now the period of performance. It's not dictated by the core.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

We just want it the longest.

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This awards the majority of.

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Janocha, Erica A CIV USARMY CEHQ (USA)

Dylan, can we pause real quick on that? So that's only going to be one, like one of several of the requirements or requirements that we'll be measuring y'all against. So I think time is a big one, duration, how long can you keep this channel navigable? But there may be other innovations or things that industry could add in that we would weigh.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

Sure.

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Janocha, Erica A CIV USARMY CEHQ (USA)

And that list of how we will measure, measure y'all, that will be put out and clarified. So that's just one aspect of it.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

Uh...

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

Brian, this award is the majority of all judging work to one single contractor. I mean, it could, you know, it could go to a single contractor wanting to sub out work, or it could conceivably be many contractors working working together on their

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) specific elements or their kind of wheelhouse, if you will, of work. It doesn't necessarily force just one contractor to get the work.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

Once awarded, will you say is direct which area to dredge during the course of the contract or does the contractor have the right to choose which channel gets dredged when? So the idea is that we would leave it up to the contractor that you

0:50:3.297 --> 0:50:23.697 know the requirement that is to keep dimensions. And so as you need to move around to deal with that or have multiple, you know, pieces of equipment, maybe attacking the same thing at the same time, again, that is that would be left up to the contractor.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

Um, we have talked about, you know, okay.

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) in those kind of extreme events, you know, or something happens, a change, you know, there's always something, you know. How do we deal with that? How do we adjust if in fact there is a need for the core to direct? So we're talking about how do we...

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Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA) keep that in there, that option, but significantly reducing the need for it or the ability to do it. Again, it'd be very specific to certain situations. The idea being, you know, 0:51:9.617 --> 0:51:26.97

Davis, Richard D (Dylan) CIV USARMY CESAD (USA)

We're giving all the the the the innovation card, it…