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SectionPageRequirement or Paragraph NumberAdditional ReferenceQuestion or CommentAnswer
B.13. CLIN 0001AF OTRS Reservation Only – Please provide clarity as to what type of booking would fall into this CLIN. In the definitions section of Section B, it is included in the definition of an OTRS as if it is the same as CLIN0001AB. Is CLIN 0001AF the fee that is charged to a Federal agency that uses an ATMC for use of the online booking engine since this fee is NOT included in the transaction fee charged by the ATMC?

a. If so, what has GSA incorporated into the pricing section or the overall evaluation criteria to insure that the Reservation Only fee charged by the eTS2 provider accurately reflects the true cost of providing the service?

b. If not, please define at what point in the reservation process this fee should be charged by the TMC.

c. If not, please advise how the ETMC will be reimbursed for the use of the OTRS.

To address this situation, we believe GSA should create a separate definition for CLIN 0001AF and clearly state what qualifies as a “reservation only” booking for the ATMC and the ETMC (if applicable). In addition, GSA needs to incorporate language into the solicitation that discourages predatory pricing by the eTS2 vendors as it relates to the fee for CLIN 0001AB. GSA should evaluate the quoted price for reasonableness based on the ETMC’s proposed price for CLIN 0001AB which contains both the online booking engine fee and the fulfillment fee. If the cost difference is not reasonable, the eTS2 vendor should be required to provide an explanation of the pricing differential. GSA should also conduct a reasonableness test based on commercial pricing for the near-same product.CLIN 0001AF refers to Air/Rail online bookings for accomodated TMC transactions while CLIN 0001AB refers to Lodging and Car only (without air) for embedded TMC transactions. CLIN 0001AF is the charge by the ETS2 vendor for an online booking for air or rail reservations that are fulfilled by an accommodated TMC. It does not cover any fee negotiated based on the ATMC task order. This establishes the charge for OTRS for the ETS2 vendor covering both booking and fulfillment that takes place completely online. An important goal of this solicitation is to drive lower transaction fees by automating both the reservation and fulfillment of travel services. a. It is not the role of the GSA to determine if the fee charge represents "the true cost" of providing the service. This is a competitive procurement. Price reasonableness will be determined based on competition, historic pricing, market research, and any other source available to the Government. b. CLIN 0001AF is the fee charged by the ETS2 vendor and it represents all OTRS reservations fulfilled by an accommodated TMC. c. It is incumbent upon the ETS2 vendor to include any costs incurred by the ETMC as part of the fee quoted in CLIN 0001AF or CLIN 0001AB . The definition of an OTRS describes "travel reservations and fulfillment (that) are initiated and completed online , i.e. without direct contact between the user/traveler/travel arranger with a customer support agent for the explicit purpose of making and/or fulfilling travel arrangements." , and remains as written. The Government will evaluate price as stated Section F, Evaluation Criteria and Method of Award.
B.14. CLIN 0001AG ATRS Reservation Only - Please provide clarity as to what type of booking would fall into this CLIN. In the definitions section of Section B, it is included in the definition of an ATRS as if it is the same as CLIN0001AC. Is CLIN 0001AG the fee that is charged to a Federal agency that uses an ATMC for use of the online booking engine since this fee is NOT included in the transaction fee charged by the ATMC?

a. If so, what has GSA incorporated into the pricing section or the overall evaluation criteria to insure that the Reservation Only fee charged by the eTS2 provider accurately reflects the true cost of providing the service?

b. If not, please define at what point in the reservation process this fee should be charged by the TMC.

c. If not, please advise how the ETMC will be reimbursed for the use of the OTRS. CLIN 0001AG applies to accommodated TMC online reservation services, and GSA intends to amend the solicitation to revise the description of CLIN0001AG to be "OTRS Domestic/Intl RESERVATION ONLY w/o Air/Rail (Lodging and/or Car Only). agent assisted reservation transactions (ATRS) containing only lodging and/or car rental bookings (no air or rail). Although the CLIN is a Transaction Type B, requiring no ticketing, the fee is inclusive of all Contractor-provided services including both reservation and fulfillment by the ETMC (to the extent necessary).

The CLIN does not include ATMC fees which are negotiated on a task order level. This is not the charge to a Federal agency that uses an ATMC for use of the online booking engine. This is an agent assisted reservation that is not done online and applies only to ETMC agent services. The ATMC fees are negotiated separately from this solicitation and are governed by the customer agency Task Order.

B 1 B.1 CLINs 0001AG, 0001SBAG and related option CLINs are for an "ATRS Domestic/Intl RESERVATION ONLY w/o Air/Rail (Lodging and/or Car Only)", specifying that it is for an agent-assisted reservation. It is our understanding that these CLINs, as with CLINs 0001AF and 0001SBAF, are for use in making an online reservation only, with the fulfillment and any agency assistance to be completed and charged by the Accommodated TMC? If so, would the Government replace the "ATRS" with an "OTRS"? If no, please provide additional information to explain the intent of these CLIN. CLIN 0001AG applies to accommodated TMC online reservation services, and GSA intends to amend the solicitation to revise the description of CLIN0001AG to be "OTRS Domestic/Intl RESERVATION ONLY w/o Air/Rail (Lodging and/or Car Only). agent assisted reservation transactions (ATRS) containing only lodging and/or car rental bookings (no air or rail). Although the CLIN is a Transaction Type B, requiring no ticketing, the fee is inclusive of all Contractor-provided services including both reservation and fulfillment by the ETMC (to the extent necessary).

The CLIN does not include ATMC fees which are negotiated on a task order level. This is not the charge to a Federal agency that uses an ATMC for use of the online booking engine. This is an agent assisted reservation that is not done online and applies only to ETMC agent services. The ATMC fees are negotiated separately from this solicitation and are governed by the customer agency Task Order.

In Q&A issued on 9 November, GSA stated that "Point of Sale (POS) as referenced throughout Section C. of the solicitation should be interpreted to mean the point of booking. (e.g., OTRS or ATRS)" We believe this is an incorrect response as today, the traveler can cancel any time before booking without incurring a fee. In addition, “at booking” is often times prior to approval of the trip. Can a traveler incur the transaction fee expense prior to approvals? If the transaction fee is assessed "at booking," what happens if the traveler subsequently cancels the trip? Please clarify exactly when the transaction fee should be assessed--at booking or at ticketing?The transaction fee for reservations shall be charged at the time of ticketing as defined in Section B Transaction Type A and Transaction Type B. The term "point of sale" as used in Section C of the ETS2 RFP is intended to reference the point in time at which the traveler/user is booking reservations and the quality checks are run, as used in the commercial market for buying air, rail, hotel and car rentals. Market research indicates that effective booking engines utilize point of sale tools at the time of booking to ensure accuracy of the reservation. The traveler shall not incur the transaction fee prior to approval as the transaction fee shall be charged at time of ticketing, which occurs after the approval is granted.
B.1In Q&A issued on 9 November, GSA stated that CLINs 0014, 0016 and 0018 were "for the ETS2 Voucher transaction fee adjustment based on the additional development efforts required by the vendor to provide this separately priced mandatory functionality as defined in Attachment 19. This CLIN is not related to TMC fees and all TMC fees charged would fall into the categories of OTRS and/or ATRS as defined in Section B and as applicable to the reservations booked by the traveler/preparer for FAM Travel." However, RFP Section B.1 CLIN Definitions, and the descriptions of each of these CLINs in the Price tables reference "Transaction A or Transaction B" which are the TMC transaction fees. Please clarify exactly when fees relating to CLINs 0014, 0016 and 0018 are to be charged.CLINs 0014, 0016 and 0018 and the corresponding option CLINs are to be charged as supplemental fees to the Travel Voucher fee as associated with CLIN 0002AA, CLIN 0002AB and CLIN 0002JAA and those corresponding option CLINs for those organizations utilizing the mandatory separately priced functionality. GSA intends to amend Section B to remove CLINs 0014, 0016 and 0018 association to Transaction A or Transaction B pricing, and rather are charged with each voucher.
B.1CLIN 0001AA is defined by GSA as covering the cost of the online booking tool and fulfillment of domestic/international Air/Rail bookings by the ETMC. We are trying to determine how this differs from CLIN 0001AF. In GSA’s Nov 9th response to questions you stated “this establishes the charge for OTRS for the eTS2 vendor covering both booking and fulfillment that takes place completely online”. It would appear that these two CLIN’s apply to the same type of transaction.CLIN 0001AA is an OTRS Domestic / Intl w/Air/Rail reservation and fullfillment of Embedded TMC transactions, as defined by Transaction Type A. CLIN 0001AF is OTRS Domestic / Intl Reservation Only with Air/Rail, which is fulfilled by an Accomodated TMC. The transaction fee covers OTRS reservation services and mid-office quality control, but not fulfillment by the ATMC.
B.1Which CLIN would be used by the eTS2 vendor to receive payment for the use of their online booking tool for Air/Rail bookings if a Federal agency decides to use an Accommodated TMC? This CLIN should only represent the cost of the online booking tool and NOT fulfillment as the fulfillment is provided by the Accommodated TMC.CLIN 0001AF is the CLIN that represents the online reservation services with Air/Rail and without fulfilled by an Accommodated TMC.
B.1Shouldn’t CLIN 0001AG reference LB OTRS instead of LB ATRS?Yes, CLIN 0001AG should be labeled LB OTRS. GSA intends to issue an amendment clarifying these CLIN descriptions.
B.1CLIN 0001AB is defined by GSA as covering the cost of the online booking tool and fulfillment of domestic/international bookings WITHOUT Air/Rail by the ETMC. We are trying to determine how this differs from CLIN 0001AG. In GSA’s Nov 9th response to questions you stated “this establishes the charge for OTRS for the eTS2 vendor covering both booking and fulfillment that takes place completely online”. It would appear that these two CLIN’s apply to the same type of transaction.CLIN 0001AB is an OTRS Domestic / Intl without /Air/Rail reservation with fullfillment by an Embedded TMC, as defined by Transaction Type B. CLIN 0001AG is OTRS Domestic / Intl Reservation Only without Air/Rail, which is fulfilled by an Accomodated TMC.
B.1Which CLIN would be used by the eTS2 vendor to receive payment for the use of their online booking tool for bookings WITHOUT Air/Rail if a Federal agency decides to use an Accommodated TMC? This CLIN should only represent the cost of the online booking tool and NOT fulfillment as the fulfillment is provided by the Accommodated TMC.CLIN 0001AG is the CLIN that represents the online reservation services without Air/Rail and without fulfillment by an Accommodated TMC.
Pre-Proposal Conference Slide Package, Slide # 12-13The Pre-Proposal Conference Power Point – Final document dated September 14, 2010 presented a notional timeline as to when offerors could expect product demonstrations (Jan-Feb 2011), IV&V (April-May 2001), final proposal revisions (May-June 2011) and final award (Aug 2011) to take place. Based on the significant proposal deadline extensions, what is the updated notional timeline for the demonstrations, IV&V, final proposal revisions and award?This is dependent on a number of factors and we expect the following notional shift in timeline:

a) Product demonstrations (late Feb - Mar 2011)

b) IV&V (Late April to early June 2011)

b) Final Proposal Revisions (July - Aug 2011)

c) Final Award (Sept 2011)

CC.4.2.6
Amendment 9In section 5 of Amendment 9, the opening paragraph in section C.4.2.6 has been changed to require the On-line Booking Tool used in ETS2 be Commercially Available as defined in Appendix B-1 and as such it must be sold to and used by a broader market and not solely for ETS2. Section 8 of Amendment 9 adds a requirement also in section C.4.2.6 which begins with the clause "[p]rovided that the OTRS utilized by Contractor is: a) implemented or marketed by its provider for use by commercial or government customers not covered under this solicitation; or b) derived from such an OTRS;" followed by language requiring that updates and upgrades to the OTRS must then be incorporated into ETS2 under certain terms. The wording of C.4.2.6.1(46) is ambiguous and can be interpreted to mean that if Contractor provided a OTRS that is not used by others outside of ETS2, which would make it not Commercially Available, then the remainder of C. 4.2.6.1(46) does not apply.
Is the intent of the Government to require that all OTRS be Commercially Available, and thus every compliant proposal would include bringing upgrades and updates for others on the OTRS into ETS2 under the terms of the Technology Refreshment section outlined in Section C.5? Or should C.4.2.6.1(46) be interpreted that only if a Contractor provides a tool used by others outside of ETS2 is there an obligation to ensure that updates and upgrades made to the OTRS for others are incorporated into ETS2? If the latter, then can the Government explain how to reconcile 4.2.6.1(46) with the introductory paragraph to 4.2.6?Yes, it has always been the intent for OTRS requirements of ETS2 to be met via a commercially available online reservation capability, and part of the purpose of Amendment 9 was to make that clearer. Yes, the other intent of Amendment 9 was to clarify that the government expects enhancements made to those commercial offerings become available to the Government as part of Technology Refreshment of the service. It is not intended that 'only if a Contractor provides a tool' that we receive those updates and upgrades via Technology Refreshment, since the ETS2 OTRS is expected to be met via a commercially available online reservation capability.
GeneralThe ETS2 requirements have progressed from a commercial "off-the-shelf" online travel reservation system to a "commercially-accepted" system that will require extensive modification, customization, and investment to meet the specific RFP requirements. Such a change seems at odds with the fundamental premise of the ETS2 project (i.e., use off-the-shelf business travel technology with few modifications), and also inconsistent with the stated direction to streamline the government's use of technology.

The Government's vision for ETS2 is a streamlined, adaptable world-class travel management service that continually applies commercial best practices to realize travel efficiencies and deliver a transparent, accountable, and sustainable service that yields exceptional customer satisfaction.

To clarify the Government’s basis for commercial buying practices, the Federal Acquisition Regulation (FAR) governs Federal Government commercial buying practices and acknowledges that the Government may have requirement modifications not customarily available in the commercial marketplace and are able to be applied when they do not significantly alter the non-governmental function, characteristics, or purpose of what is being bought. We believe that some modifications are necessary to accomplish our vision, while retaining commercial services.

General Unfortunately, the investment required to meet the proposed "Indefinite Delivery, Indefinite Quantity" contracting model, combined with the contract renewal provisions, will be extremely high. For example, we believe customized security requirements alone will require an investment tens of millions of dollars. In addition, future technology enhancements and security upgrades remaining undefined, [offerors] bidding for this business will have no ability to assess the total investment required over the course of the 15-year award.... If the GSA were to alter the request to implement a truly "commercially-accepted" system with robust yet not unreasonably onerous security enhancements -- which are consistent with the spirit of GSA's intentions -- then ETS2 could be built quickly and cost effectively using the same travel technology used by the largest multi-national corporations. Our challenge is to incorporate these commercial best practices into ETS2, at a best value, market competitive price, while also satisfying heightened security requirements as demanded by Federal Travel Regulation (FTR), the Federal Information Security Management Act, and Privacy Act, etc. The Government has well-recognized and prioritized the Nation’s substantial cyber-warfare vulnerabilities for commercial businesses as well as Government-specific services and systems. This is a challenge we all face and it will only be solved through continued innovation, strong partnership, and sound stewardship for key programs like E-Gov Travel Services.

While we anticipate some investment would be necessary for legal and regulatory compliance, our intention has never been to cause or create security requirements that call for investing tens of millions of dollars. GSA has always intended to implement a commercially available service "with robust yet not unreasonably onerous security requirements”, and as a result, we felt it important to review and clarify security requirements in this acquisition, which have been updated in Amendment 10. Additionally, previously submitted questions on security requirements have been revised and are reposted with these questions.

General The 72-hour disaster recovery requirement is not required for commercial systems which currently process traveler data for hundreds of large corporations. The requirement for 72-hour disaster recovery is minimum acceptable standard for web-based commercial services, which our market research substantiates as a valid requirement. We consider Government travel to be mission critical and waiting more than 3 days for online travel services to be restored would impair many agencies ability to accomplish their missions, and well as significantly impact overall customer satisfaction. Web-based services are performing at this level or better for their commercial customers for similar reasons, and we require the same level of performance for the Federal Government.

C.6.1.3.1811677Will the banner and privacy information be required on all external web-facing ETS2 systems? (example: a reporting tool may be for optional use)Any system within the accredation boundary that provides access to government data will be required to display the appropriate banner and/or privacy information
C.6.1.5.184478Regarding HSPD-12

1. Will GSA consider a waiver for commercial vendors that have instituted a structured internal background processes that would satisfy an HSPD12-background check?

2. Please provide the HSPD-12 guidelines and criteria for persons who are foreign nationals?

3. What is the process for approval by the PMO for foreign nationals?

4. Please provide the clarity for the level of personnel backgrounds required by a subcontractor. Is the Prime responsible for the sub-contractor and their sub-contractors ( Example GeThere is hosted by HP ) ?

5. Attachment 4 outlines the requirements for submissions – When do the background checks need to be completed ?

6. Will an interim clearance be granted? If so, what is the criteria based on and how will this be communicated? Access to US Government data within the accreditation boundary is granted to U.S. citizens with need-to-know status and who have current approved HSPD-12 background investigations; should access be required by a foreign national who is able to meet the HSPD-12 requirements, the ETS2 Contractor must present that individual and the justification for their access to the ETS2 PMO for approval before submitting them for a HSPD-12 background investigation. The requirement applies to subcontractors as well. An organization may not substitute other investigative processes for an HSPD-12 background investigation.

The background investigation process should be initiated as early as possible and access with a Preliminary Adjudication may be considered acceptable by the PMO while awaiting final Adjudication. Criteria will be determined by a number of factors including, but not limited to, Government PMO determination in support of customer agency needs.

Access to US Government data outside the accreditation boundary will require a PMO approved comercial equivalent background investigation.

C.6.1.5.1 84 4 80 What will be the criteria for the qualification of foreign nationals (located in or outside of the United States) gaining access to government data for the execution of authorized roles and responsibilities? Many of the commercial vendors offering their products are global companies with employees world-wide. Are background clearances for subcontractors’ hosting support (for example is the hosted facility for an online booking engine subcontractor required to be cleared)? What is the anticipated cost of the Background Investigation and who will bear this cost? How is this requirement to be applied to servicing US embassies in foreign countries where services will usually be provided by foreign nationals? Access to US Government data within the accreditation boundary is granted to U.S. citizens with need-to-know status and who have current approved HSPD-12 background investigations; should access be required by a foreign national who is able to meet the HSPD-12 requirements, the ETS2 Contractor must present that individual and the justification for their access to the ETS2 PMO for approval before submitting them for a HSPD-12 background investigation. The requirement applies to subcontractors as well. An organization may not substitute other investigative processes for an HSPD-12 background investigation.

The background investigation process should be initiated as early as possible and access with a Preliminary Adjudication may be considered acceptable by the PMO while awaiting final Adjudication. Criteria will be determined by a number of factors including, but not limited to, Government PMO determination in support of customer agency needs.

Access to US Government data outside the accreditation boundary will require a PMO approved comercial equivalent background investigation.

Security requirements are policy-driven and cannot be waived or weakened because of cost considerations. Such These costs must be borne in the overall proposed contract pricing for any ETS2 components within the accreditation boundary.

C.6.1.10.1 91 3 82 Who will determine how ETMCs will be evaluated for meeting security requirements? How will GSA establish a uniform and fair approach to ensuring TMCs meet security requirements? How can Federal compliance regulations be standardized and enforced with Global commercial companies such that compliance will not limit business operations and opportunities due to stringent government requirements? How will GSA compensate the prime vendor and/or the ETMCs for the investment and compliance costs associated with meeting these requirements? How will GSA enforce the compliance of accommodated TMCs providing travel management services through the TSS contract? For ETMC organizations, will all Travel Agents supporting government agencies under ETS2 be required to have HSPD12 background checks? If so, who will fund the background checks for these agents or any other ETMC support personnel? Will the ETMCs be included in the system boundary as one ETS2 solution, or will they undergo Certification and Accreditation Security Assessments as separate entities? EMTCs security requirements will be determined by whether proposed to be included within the accreditation boundary per objective in Section C.6.1.2 #2 added in Amendment 10. ETMCs included within the boundary will be evaluated against government C&A standards, while those not included within the accreditation boundary will be evaluated against commercially accepted equivalents.

Access to US Government data within the accreditation boundary is granted to U.S. citizens with need-to-know status and who have current approved HSPD-12 background investigations; should access be required by a foreign national who is able to meet the HSPD-12 requirements, the ETS2 Contractor must present that individual and the justification for their access to the ETS2 PMO for approval before submitting them for a HSPD-12 background investigation. The requirement applies to subcontractors as well. An organization may not substitute other investigative processes for an HSPD-12 background investigation.

The background investigation process should be initiated as early as possible and access with a Preliminary Adjudication may be considered acceptable by the PMO while awaiting final Adjudication. Criteria will be determined by a number of factors including, but not limited to, Government PMO determination in support of customer agency needs.

Access to US Government data outside the accreditation boundary will require a PMO approved comercial equivalent background investigation.

Security requirements are policy-driven and cannot be waived or weakened because of cost considerations. Such These costs must be borne in the overall proposed contract pricing for any ETS2 components within the accreditation boundary.

C.6.1.6.185149"All security requirements outlined in Section C.6.1.6…flow down to the ETMCs." How will this be addresses for the ATMCs?EMTCs security requirements will be determined by whether proposed to be included within the accreditation boundary per objective in Section C.6.1.2 #2 added in Amendment 10. ETMCs included within the boundary will be evaluated against government C&A standards, while those not included within the accreditation boundary will be evaluated against commercially accepted equivalents.ATMC's are not located within the ETS2 Accreditation Boundary and are not part of this contract. For Security Certification and Accreditation, ATMC's will be considered external interfaces.
C.6.1.13541) i. Assure compliance with the Homeland Security Presidential Directive (HSPD)-12 requirements as provided by the ETS2 PMO, and that access to US Government data is granted to U.S. citizens with need-to-know status and who have current approved HSPD-12 background investigations; should access be required by a foreign national who is able to meet the HSPD-12 requirements, the ETS2 Contractor must present that individual and the justification for their access to the ETS2 PMO for approval before submitting them for a HSPD-12 background investigation;
Comment: Non-US citizens can have access but must be submitted to ETS2 PMO before BI is performed. This allows us more room to have non-US citizens work on the program. This is limited to data, but this could potentially include subcontractors that support databases, servers, and networks as well as application developers.Access to US Government data within the accreditation boundary is granted to U.S. citizens with need-to-know status and who have current approved HSPD-12 background investigations; should access be required by a foreign national who is able to meet the HSPD-12 requirements, the ETS2 Contractor must present that individual and the justification for their access to the ETS2 PMO for approval before submitting them for a HSPD-12 background investigation. The requirement applies to subcontractors as well. An organization may not substitute other investigative processes for an HSPD-12 background investigation.

The background investigation process should be initiated as early as possible and access with a Preliminary Adjudication may be considered acceptable by the PMO while awaiting final Adjudication. Criteria will be determined by a number of factors including, but not limited to, Government PMO determination in support of customer agency needs.

Access to US Government data outside the accreditation boundary will require a PMO approved comercial equivalent background investigation.

C.6.1.1 357 1) u. Report on the following information monthly per OMB M-10-15 FY 2010 Reporting Instructions, (effective January 1, 2011):

i. Inventory;

ii. Systems and Services (including monthly scan reports);

iii. Hardware;

iv. Software;

v. External Connections;

vi. Security Training;

vii. Identity Management and Access; and

viii. Obtain and maintain a valid certification and accreditation or be subject to termination of the contract for cause.

Comment: Brand new requirement, may need to do this for current contract as well, but adds additional reporting. This is in conjunction with new Continuous Monitoring requirements that will begin soon. Monthly scanning has been removed as a requirement and included as an objective in Amendment 10.

C.6.1.1526Section C.6.1.1.1.h. Logical/Physical Separation – This section states that a database used for one customer agency cannot be used for another customer agency (or non- US Government entity). Since the GDS is exempted from this requirement, at the TMC level this requirement would primarily apply to the TMC’s accounting system. This requirement will cause an undue burden on the TMC and substantially increase the cost to the Government. Since the TMC accounting systems control all ticketing, reporting, ARC processing, invoicing and financial data this requirement is operationally infeasible to implement with the possibility of having hundreds of Federal agencies of varying sizes. Would GSA consider designating the TMC databases as outside the accreditation boundary? There is precedence for this with the classification of the GDS and all of the data contained in the TMC databases is also contained in the GDS. In addition, the data contained in the TMC database is required to be encrypted with FIPS140-2 or higher.Per Amendment 10, data within the accreditation boundary (TAVS) must be physically separated from commercial data. Logically or physically separating data by customer agency for components outside the accrediation boundary is an objective.
C.6.1.172N/A529Item 1) h The first sentence, “Assure that US Government data is at all times logically or physically separated by customer agency, and from non-US Government data, including foreign government data, state and local government data, and commercial data” states that logical separation is acceptable. However, in the next sentence "separate database instances" indicates physical separation of the data by client agency. What is the real requirement--logical separation of data or physical separation of data? Currently, ETS is delivered as a SAAS modeled solution, an approach that greatly minimizes Government investment in costly infrastructure and application customization while providing a timely and cost-effective solution to meet Agency travel and expense management needs. Application business logic is designed to meet Government travel regulations with flexibility in configuration to meet custom Agency policies that exist via existing configuration controls. An investment in further segregating agency data will result in extreme measures beyond the capabilities of current technologies, which already adequately support the government’s requirements to meet logical or physical separation. The ETS2 requirement amendment in regards to logical separation for agency data is not an efficient business approach and will increase costs, resulting in significant challenges for any competing vendor. We request that the government fully quantify its decision and re-address the requirement to further separate agency data.The requirement is that data be logically or physically separated, except for the TAVS which must be physically separated, per Amendment 005. "Separate database instances" refers to logical or physical instances (e.g. separate physical servers or separate database files/virtual servers). Amendment 005 removed the requirement for separate database instances for agency customers and therefore now allows for logical separation of agency data from other agencies (as well as other non-US government entities).

Per Amendment 10, data within the accreditation boundary (TAVS) must be physically separated from commercial data. Logically or physically separating data by customer agency for components outside the accrediation boundary is an objective.

C.6.1.1 72 1 552 Section C.6.1.1 1h) It is stated that "at a minimum, separation of agency data shall be achieved by the use of separate database instances." This new requirement presents undue burden, as it will require a completely new design/architecture of the application and the associated serves associated with each database. This requirement negates the government's desire to "minimize operational and maintenance costs. Generally an application uses one database, which can have the data logically separated by agency. This requires a small number of database administrators and allows for a smooth backup process. Conceivably, an ETS2 Contractor could have 90 separate databases if structured as stated in the new requirement. Additional staff as well as equipment will be required to comply with the requirement of this solicitation.

Another factor to consider is that a separate license must be purchased for each database being scanned. Not only will having separate database instances increase the cost for the scan licenses, it will also increase the amount of time required for performing the scans, and most likely will require additional staff. If ETS2 goes to the proposed requirement for monthly scans, with this architecture required for recording and tracking the POAM any vulnerability identified will increase, and the ETS2 PMO's LOE required to minor the POAM will also increase. Another aspect that can have grave ramifications as result of this change is the back-up and storage of the data. Separate back-up software as well as backup media will be required, escalating the cost. So in reality, the ETS2 contractor would need to price the voucher/transaction cost based on setting up ETS2 and performing the associated takes based on the assumption that the ETS2 PMO awards a single contract an the eTS contractor will have 90 separate database instances and all the associated costs.

The question is, why can't the requirement stated so that the ETS2 contractor can give the Government both physical and logical separation as was the intent of the original requirement. The physical separation would not mean separate data centers, as most people interpret physical separation, but would mean a separate server(s), which would contain US Government data. Thus the US Government data would be physical soreed on a separate server from non-US Government and commercial data, but it could be in the same data center. In addition ach agency can logically separated within one database, and separate database instances would not be required. This way the ETS2 Contractor can meet the required of the EST2 Solicitation for physical and logical separation at a more reasonable price to the government and with less negative impact. Per Amendment 10, data within the accreditation boundary (TAVS) must be physically separated from commercial data. Logically or physically separating data by customer agency for components outside the accrediation boundary is an objective.

Questions and Answers QMAD-JM-100001-N, December 23, 2010

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