3.06_Amendment(8)_23RK067 - Vendor Exceptions IH response v2_N0010423RK067.xlsx

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This document contains a vendor's exceptions and responses to technical requirements for a Request for Proposal (RFP) related to Shielded Mild Detonating Cords (SMDC). The vendor is requesting exceptions to several requirements in MIL-DTL-32154A and associated drawings, including first article testing, booster cup load, and test setup details. The vendor proposes alternative testing methods and equipment, citing continuous production history and safety concerns. The related federal contract opportunity is a solicitation (N0010423RK067) from the Department of the Navy Naval Supply Systems Command for SMDCs, with a limited drawing package available. The procurement is restricted to two vendors, Pacific Scientific Energetic Materials Company and Rockwell Collins, and a safety survey will be required.

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Requirements to take exception to FAI sample run
Requirements to take exception to Electrical Blasting Cap and SMDC Test Tips for safer HE TLX Test Tip and Purcussion Primer initiation
Requirements to take exception to for customer specified test setup. Use Vendor test setup materials compliant to intent of customer setup
Requirements to take exception to fitting nut torque over 90 in-lbs.
No ColorIndividual requirements to take exception to.
Requirement DetailsRequirement ValidationCompliance
Reqt. IDSource /
Rationale(Rev)Section /
ParagraphText TypeTextValidation
StatusValidation NotesReqt. OwnerVendor Acceptance
of Reqt.Compliance
StatusCompliance CommentsIH Response
29MIL-DTL-32154A3.1RequirementUnless otherwise specified by the contract or purchase order, an acceptable first article sample of 18 SMDC shall(0001) be required when more than 12 months have elapsed since the production of the latest accepted production lot.N/ANoN/ATake Exception to requirement. Vendor has never been out of production of SMDC, continuous production of AH-64, 51134-XXX and various foreign military SMDCs.Not Approved
30MIL-DTL-32154A3.1RequirementThe sample shall(0002) be tested in accordance with 4.2.N/ANoN/ATake Exception to requirement. Vendor has never been out of production of SMDC, continuous production of AH-64, 51134-XXX and various foreign military SMDCs.Not Approved
58MIL-DTL-32154A3.6RequirementThe booster shall(0023) contain 1+/- .1 grain of HNS pressed to 32,000 +/- 1,000 psi.Invalid RequirementBooster cup load of 1 ±.1 grain does not met Vendor established (12/1969 )Booster cup load. [1 ±.1 grain is 64.8± 6.5 mg, Vendor booster cup is 67±7 mg]. Appears in spec rounding to one digit in the requirement and possible rounding in actual grain to mg factor.NoNot CompliantTake exception, use Vendor booster cup load as is. Vendor booster cup load is standard load size for all SMDC, FCDC, ECRL and TLX. Changing load originally qualified in 1969 could effect .285-inch dimension from face of booster cup to ferrule flang on Vendor top assembly drawing and Navy drawing 841AS425 (redesign and qualification).Approved
82MIL-DTL-32154A4.2RequirementThe first article sample selected in accordance with 3.1 shall(0036) be sequentially subjected to the following tests of MIL-D-21625 in the order listed: Temperature and Humidity Cycling (28 Days), Salt Spray, Vibration and Shock.N/ANoN/ATake Exception to requirement. Vendor has never been out of production of SMDC, continuous production of AH-64, 51134-XXX and various foreign military SMDCs.Not Approved
83MIL-DTL-32154A4.2RequirementAfter the completion of the sequential environmental treatments, the sample shall(0037) be inspected and x-rayed for damage.N/ANoN/ATake Exception to requirement. Vendor has never been out of production of SMDC, continuous production of AH-64, 51134-XXX and various foreign military SMDCs.Not Approved
84MIL-DTL-32154A4.2RequirementAny damages inflicted by the sequential environmental treatments which would adversely affect the performance of the item in service application shall(0038) be cause for the rejection of the first article sample.N/ANoN/ATake Exception to requirement. Vendor has never been out of production of SMDC, continuous production of AH-64, 51134-XXX and various foreign military SMDCs.Not Approved
85MIL-DTL-32154A4.2RequirementThe sample shall(0039) be divided into two equal groups and fired in accordance with 4.7.2.1 and 4.7.2.2.N/ANoN/ATake Exception to requirement. Vendor has never been out of production of SMDC, continuous production of AH-64, 51134-XXX and various foreign military SMDCs.Not Approved
86MIL-DTL-32154A4.2RequirementThe sample shall(0040) be acceptable with respect to functional testing if each firing meets the requirements of 3.10.N/ANoN/ATake Exception to requirement. Vendor has never been out of production of SMDC, continuous production of AH-64, 51134-XXX and various foreign military SMDCs.Not Approved
140MIL-DTL-32154A4.4.2RequirementThe 9 inch segments of the detonating cord sample shall(0068) be temperature conditioned for not less than 8 hours nor greater than 24 hours, one segment each at -65° ± 5°F and +350° ± 5°F.ProposedTesting per ATP is only 4 hoursNoNot CompliantTake Exception to requirement. 8 hours minimum is an old requirement. Current processes and requirements is 4 hours mininimumApproved
141MIL-DTL-32154A4.4.2RequirementFollowing temperature conditioning, each segment shall(0069) be fired by a commercial no. 6 electrical blasting cap and the detonation velocity measured to determine conformance to the requirements of 3.4.1.ProposedNo. 6 EBC not used by Vendor, Vendor uses No. 8NoNot CompliantTake Exception to requirement. New test setup does not use EBCsApproved with conditions. RFV will be required.
163MIL-DTL-32154A4.7.2.1RequirementThe test specimen shall(0086) be fired in the manner depicted on NAVAIR drawing No. 841AS800.ProposedRefer to exceptions to Dwgs 841AS800-841AS806 belowNoPartially CompliantModified LAT setup, Refer to exceptions to Dwgs 841AS800-841AS806 belowVendor must provide a copy of their LAT test set up and ATP.
166MIL-DTL-32154A4.7.2.2RequirementThe test specimen shall(0089) be fired in the manner depicted on NAVAIR drawing 841AS800.ProposedRefer to exceptions to Dwgs 841AS800-841AS806 belowNoPartially CompliantModified LAT setup, Refer to exceptions to Dwgs 841AS800-841AS806 belowVendor must provide a copy of their LAT test set up and ATP.
199841AS425AJNote 3RequirementTHE ALUMINUM FOIL-TYPE IDENTIFICATION PLATE SHALL BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH MIL-DTL-19834, TYPE I.ProposedVendor nameplate does not comply to MIL-DTL-19834.NoNot CompliantTake exception to the MIL-DTL-19834 specification. Vendor nameplate is qualified for F-18 SMDC.Approved
379841AS450JEntire DwgRequirementSpecification for Shielded Mild Detonating Cord Test TipInvalid RequirementNoN/ATake Exception to requirement. For safety Blasting caps no longer used, SMDC test tips replaced by HE TLX Test Tips with same 1 grain output as SMDC test tip. HE TLX Test Tip initiation is performed using a percussion primer.Approved with conditions. RFV will be required.
380841AS450JEntire DwgRequirementSpecification for Shielded Mild Detonating Cord Test TipInvalid RequirementNoN/ATake Exception to requirement. For safety Blasting caps no longer used, SMDC test tips replaced by HE TLX Test Tips with same 1 grain output as SMDC test tip. HE TLX Test Tip initiation is performed using a percussion primer.Approved with conditions. RFV will be required.
389841AS800ANote 6RequirementFITTING NUT THREAD SIZE TORQUE(INCH POUNDS)
.688 .4375-20 UNF 80-100Invalid RequirementOver torque for aluminum fitting nutsNoN/ATake Exception to requirement. Over torque for aluminum fitting nuts. Max torque is 90 in-lbs. MIL-DTL-32154, Para. 3.9.1 only requires 90 in-lbs test.Approved. Proposed torque range is within the specification
390841AS800ANote 6RequirementFITTING NUT THREAD SIZE TORQUE(INCH POUNDS)
.750 .5000-20 UNF 100-120Invalid RequirementOver torque for aluminum fitting nutsNoN/ATake Exception to requirement. Over torque for aluminum fitting nuts. Max torque is 90 in-lbs. MIL-DTL-32154, Para. 3.9.1 only requires 90 in-lbs testNot Approved. Proposed torque range is not IAW spec requirement
392841AS800ANote 8RequirementFIRE TEST ASSEMBLY BY TAPING A COMMERCIAL NO.6 ELECTRIC BLASTING CAP TO THE APPLICABLE SMDC TEST TIP INSTALLED IN TIE TEE CONNECTOR AND APPLY A FIRING CURRENT OF 5.00±.25 AMPS TO THE BLASTING CAP LEAD WIRES FROM A24-28 VDC SOURCE.Invalid RequirementNoN/AFor safety Blasting caps no longer used, SMDC test tips replaced by HE TLX Test Tips with same 1 grain output as SMDC test tip. HE TLX Test Tip initiation is performed using a percussion primer.Approved with conditions. RFV will be required.
393841AS800ANote 8RequirementTHE OUTPUT END OF THE BLASTING CAP SHALL BE IN INTIMATE CONTACT AND LONGITUDINALLY ALIGNED WITH THE EXPLOSIVE CORE OF THE DETONATING CORD PROTRUDING FROM THE SMDC TEST TIP.Invalid RequirementNoN/AFor safety Blasting caps no longer used, SMDC test tips replaced by HE TLX Test Tips with same 1 grain output as SMDC test tip. HE TLX Test Tip initiation is performed using a percussion primer.Approved with conditions. RFV will be required.
394841AS800ANote 8RequirementALTERNATE THE DONOR SMDC TEST TIP BETWEEN FIRINGS SUCH THAT AN APPROXIMATELY EQUAL NUMBER OF FIRINGS IS PERFORMED AT EACH CONDITIONING TEMPERATURE, BY DETONATING THE SMDC TEST TIP IN-LINE WITH THE SMDC TEST SPECIMEN AND BY DETONATING THE SMDC TEST TIP AT 90' WITH THE SMDC TEST SPECIMEN.Invalid RequirementNoN/AFor safety Blasting caps no longer used, SMDC test tips replaced by HE TLX Test Tips with same 1 grain output as SMDC test tip. HE TLX Test Tip initiation is performed using a percussion primer.Approved with conditions. RFV will be required.
397841AS800ANote 10RequirementSTANDARD SMDC LOT ACCEPTANCE TEST SPECIMEN SHALL BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH NAVAIR DWG 841AS425, SHEET 9.Invalid RequirementNoN/ASheet 9 on Dwg 841AS425AJ is a list of where used for the customer SMDC. Assumption is it should be Sheet 3 of 841AS425AJ. Vendor is compliant to Sheet 3 of 841AS425J.Concur
398841AS801ARequirementSENSITIVITY TEST FITTING DRAWINGInvalid RequirementNoN/AVendor will use Sensitivity Test Fittng Drawing # 80017. Sensitivity Test Fittng 80017 qualified to Boeing 74B80225 SMDCs equivalent to the Navy 841ASA425 SMDCs. Vendor Sensitivity Test Fittng complies with Navy Drawing 841AS801AApproved. Drawing must be provided to verify concurrence.
399841AS802-RequirementCONNECTOR TEE DRAWINGInvalid RequirementNoN/AVendor will use Standard SMDC configuration Connector Tee, PN 21738-2. Tee PN 21738-2 compliant to all dimesions shown on 841AS802, except additional design rounds bottom face to a full radius and some corners to .25 radius.Vendor must provide a copy of their DWG PN 21738-2
401841AS804-RequirementSMDC DENT BLOCK HOLDER DRAWINGInvalid RequirementNoN/ACustomer design is an old design not used by Vendor. Vendor will use Dent Block Holder Drawing # 80397. Dent Block Holder 80397 qualified to Boeing 74B80225 SMDCs equivalent to the Navy 841ASA425 SMDCs. Vendor holder does not require a threaded port for the SMDC.Vendor must provide a copy of their DWG PN 80397. How to secure the booster tip against to the dent block?
402841AS805-RequirementSENSITIVITY FITTING HOLDER DRAWINGInvalid RequirementNoN/ACustomer design does not hold sensitivity fitting in and can allow sensitivity fitting halves to move apart changing internal volume. Vendor will use Sensitivity Holder, Vendor TN 12800-1, which is desiged to capture and keep sensitivity fittings from coming apart.Vendor will need to provide more information about this.

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