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00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:14.660 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) All right. Thank you for joining the call today to review the schedule logistics and test for our technical on site evaluation of pavement data collection vehicles. I will kick off today's call by going over the meeting agenda.

00:00:15.650 --> 00:00:37.040 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) I'm Brandon Sterle, the road inventory program coordinator at the eastern federal lands. Federal Highway Administration office in Ashburn, Virginia. We recently posted our request for proposals to collect payment condition data and perform the condition analysis on the National Park Service Road network for cycle 7.

00:00:38.040 --> 00:00:41.990 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) The technical evaluation event being discussed today on this call.

00:00:43.450 --> 00:00:45.270 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) We'll be taking place.

00:00:47.700 --> 00:01:13.370 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) Taking place during the solicitation period in anticipation of selecting a vendor for our next contract for data collection. The event is scheduled for April 19th and 20th in the DC metro area and during today's presentation. We will share information on the collection of pavement. Cracking data that will be evaluated, according to our federal lands distress ID manual that was included in the solicitation package.

00:01:14.620 --> 00:01:21.830 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) Additionally, we will review other data and results that are being required to be performed as part of this evaluation.

00:01:22.640 --> 00:01:52.770 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) In 2021, Ashdale published a new transverse profile or certification standard and data format standard that we are requiring to be performed during our new contract. We've been working with Andy Mergenthaler from our Federal Highway Resource Center on implementing these standards for use in our vendor selection process and we are working with Andy 's consultants at QS to provide support for the testing setup and site selection.

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The purpose of today's call is to provide an overview of the certification standards test and deliverables of the technical evaluation only.

00:02:04.950 --> 00:02:34.850 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) The consultants that QS will be describing the event and the test and you can ask questions specifically related to the event at the end of the presentation. We will not be taking Q&A on our RFP or solicitation package during today's call. If you have any questions about the solicitation. You can direct those to our contracting office, whose email and contact information is on the procurement website.

00:02:35.570 --> 00:02:39.880 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) And the statement of work and will be shown at the end of today's presentation.

00:02:41.740 --> 00:02:43.260 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) We go back one slide.

00:02:44.690 --> 00:03:08.500 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) I just wanted to again mention the dates of the technical field evaluation. It will take place on April 19th and 20th with the 21st as a weather delay makeup day we'll do the testing during regular work hours from 8 to 5:00 PM with any adjustments as needed that we determine that day, the locations for the test.

00:03:09.710 --> 00:03:11.810 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) On the next slide there's a map.

00:03:13.060 --> 00:03:30.070 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) How we are doing the cracking assessments in the District of Columbia on some National Park roads down there and we will be doing. The transverse payment profile testing out in Loudon County near Sterling and Leesburg, north of Dulles Airport.

00:03:32.290 --> 00:03:43.180 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) And now I will hand over the presentation to QS to get into the details pertaining to the data collection process and testing so thank you all for joining today.

00:03:46.830 --> 00:04:18.360 Doug Frith Thanks Brandon Yeah, I'm Doug Frith, with quality engineering solutions and like Brandon said. We are the contractor. That's been at tasked with performing these events, so we appreciate everyone's participation. I'll be talking about the cracking evaluation. Jeff Omeyer will be covering. The transverse profiler certification process and then Dennis Morian with QS is gonna talk about the standard data format.

00:04:18.800 --> 00:04:20.710 Doug Frith And all of these are.

00:04:22.380 --> 00:04:24.660 Doug Frith Data that has been requested in the RFP.

00:04:24.740 --> 00:04:29.910 Doug Frith See that we cover so for the cracking data valuation.

00:04:31.730 --> 00:04:37.020 Doug Frith A couple years ago FHW a published this report that shown here the.

00:04:38.780 --> 00:04:42.220 Doug Frith RC 20 dash 0005.

00:04:43.840 --> 00:04:53.410 Doug Frith And so this will be one of the first times that truly has been we've tried to implement it and so we'll see the cracking evaluation.

00:04:54.620 --> 00:05:02.340 Doug Frith As both a requirement for federal lands as well as to try and validate this.

00:05:03.390 --> 00:05:11.100 Doug Frith This process that was developed in public back in 2020 next slide, please.

00:05:13.960 --> 00:05:38.070 Doug Frith So the cracking evaluation tests what we're gonna set up is between 6 and 10 different locations and actually some of the QS staff and federal land staff next week will go out and do ground reference measurements. Mark all the sites and I would anticipate by the end of next week, we would have finalized.

00:05:39.290 --> 00:05:46.170 Doug Frith All of the sites we currently have identified at least 6 locations where planned to do 10.

00:05:47.390 --> 00:06:00.370 Doug Frith Each location is gonna be 3/10 of a mile long. It'll be a single lane wide so just like the like. You would do for automated data collection.

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We will have the begin intermediate and end points marked on the pavement.

00:06:08.730 --> 00:06:24.080 Doug Frith We're gonna provide a Google Earth and shape files via the procurement website of all of the 6 to 10 locations will provide some photos of the marking as well so everyone's.

00:06:25.410 --> 00:06:30.260 Doug Frith Familiar with with how the marks look on the pavement and.

00:06:31.430 --> 00:06:39.120 Doug Frith And details of the site locations as well, so all that information will be provided via the procurement website.

00:06:40.510 --> 00:06:47.650 Doug Frith No, you know by the end of next week. I would say no later than Monday, the 18th.

00:06:49.900 --> 00:06:56.520 Doug Frith What's the intent that once once the sites are identified that the vendors can collect them.

00:06:58.490 --> 00:07:06.540 Doug Frith At their convenience. We don't really have a day and time set up that says you have to be here and collect the cracking on this day.

00:07:07.430 --> 00:07:15.980 Doug Frith We're just gonna provide you the location information you can collect it at at your convenience around the TPP certification.

00:07:17.750 --> 00:07:29.740 Doug Frith So as I said that the price will be 3/10 of a mile long. But we're asking that the cracking data be provided at 3:00 100th of a mile mile intervals.

00:07:30.700 --> 00:07:41.810 Doug Frith So each of those, 0.3 mile long. Sections will be divided into 10 subsections and then the cracking compared in each one of those subsections.

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And we're going to ask if you report that data in 2 different ways, one, according to the federal land requirements, which were laid out in the Appendix E&L.

00:07:52.850 --> 00:07:58.220 Doug Frith Of the procurement and as well as the HPMS guidelines.

00:07:59.840 --> 00:08:03.710 Doug Frith As are published in the in the HPMS.

00:08:04.490 --> 00:08:06.020 Doug Frith Field data collection manual.

00:08:08.320 --> 00:08:08.810 Doug Frith Next.

00:08:11.020 --> 00:08:28.090 Doug Frith So the cracking of evaluation test like I said they're gonna be compared to ground reference measurements next week. There'll be a group of us that go out and do the ground reference measurements. We're gonna develop crack maps crack summary.

00:08:29.460 --> 00:08:37.000 Doug Frith Both based on the federal lands distress, I identification manual as well as the HPMS guidelines.

00:08:38.230 --> 00:08:42.360 Doug Frith And then some other methods of summarizing for.

00:08:42.860 --> 00:08:47.290 Doug Frith Uh for some other evaluation purposes, not necessarily related to.

00:08:48.090 --> 00:08:49.130 Doug Frith To the procurement.

00:08:49.790 --> 00:09:07.510 Doug Frith And then we'll we'll use the paired T test for equivalence testing for comparison for the HPMS data. The federal lands. Cracking data will be handled by Brandon and his staff and they'll compare it as they've noted in the procurement documents.

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Next one please.

00:09:12.150 --> 00:09:42.400 Doug Frith So the cracking sites that we've identified right now there's 6 sites here of 5 of them are down in the in the DC area. One of them will be at the same location that the the TPP testing is going to occur and again. We may have up to 10 sites. I would envision a table like this being provided with the details of of all the sites start ends and.

00:09:42.530 --> 00:09:49.370 Doug Frith Again, we'll have Google Earth and shape files for you so we can and then marks on the pavement next slide.

00:09:51.710 --> 00:10:05.920 Doug Frith So the cracking locations this is just kind of an overview again. It's almost like the same map that Brandon showed but the cracking sites. The majority of them are gonna be down here in southern Washington.

00:10:07.540 --> 00:10:18.840 Doug Frith And then we will have the one side up here. That's the same as the TPP certification location. So you're you're vans are gonna be there anyway next slide, please.

00:10:20.740 --> 00:10:30.570 Doug Frith And then as we get down in the DC area of the old RFK Stadium is right around here and you can see where we've got 5 of the sites.

00:10:31.610 --> 00:10:38.520 Doug Frith Panda laid out already and we'll finalize those and pick a few more sites next week next slide.

00:10:41.650 --> 00:10:51.480 Doug Frith And then the one side at the the out near Sterling, Virginia, it'll be on the same roadway that the transverse profiler certification is going to occur.

00:10:53.130 --> 00:10:56.760 Doug Frith So again you will be in that vicinity next slide, please.

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The reporting requirements are identified in Appendix L.

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For federal lands and you can see that they've developed a spreadsheet the key here being that for.

00:11:15.280 --> 00:11:26.330 Doug Frith Site number one you're gonna report that data in 0.03 mile increments. So all the various different types and severities of cracking that they've asked for.

00:11:28.550 --> 00:11:30.750 Doug Frith You guys can read that I don't need to read it to you.

00:11:32.490 --> 00:11:39.840 Doug Frith But you're gonna so each 0.03 miles will be summarized and reported in an Excel table like this.

00:11:41.420 --> 00:11:42.200 Doug Frith Or and

00:11:42.930 --> 00:11:50.020 Doug Frith as noted here, there's not going to be any computation of indices. They're gonna compare cracking to cracking so and patching.

00:11:51.280 --> 00:11:53.910 Doug Frith As well next slide, please.

00:11:55.070 --> 00:12:05.970 Doug Frith For the HPMS deliverable we're keeping it as simple as we can what we're asking for is that again in each the 10 increments for the 0.3 miles.

00:12:07.120 --> 00:12:11.720 Doug Frith I'm just asking for the lineal length of cracking and the left wheel path.

00:12:12.420 --> 00:12:19.500 Doug Frith And the right wheel path and then the percent cracking based on the HPMS criteria.

00:12:20.410 --> 00:12:27.790 Doug Frith Uh and then we're we're also gonna ask you just to provide the right depth for that section just as you would, for HPMS.

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But for some later analysis as well.

00:12:34.600 --> 00:12:45.020 Doug Frith And I believe that finishes the cracking evaluation part so I'll turn it over to Jeff Omeyer for the transverse profile details.

00:12:54.690 --> 00:12:57.790 Doug Frith I seen Michael Neiman has his hand raised I don't.

00:13:07.080 --> 00:13:07.490 Jeff Uhlmeyer Yeah.

00:13:08.640 --> 00:13:09.050 Jeff Uhlmeyer Sure.

00:13:10.690 --> 00:13:18.020 Michael Nieminen OK, hi. It's Michael my question is Umm? How many repeat runs are you requiring of the cracking sites. I didn't hear that mentioned.

00:13:19.550 --> 00:13:23.720 Doug Frith No repeats just a single a single pass through is all you have to do.

00:13:25.500 --> 00:13:28.710 Michael Nieminen How are you gonna assess the repeatability of the equipment then?

00:13:32.240 --> 00:13:37.330 Doug Frith It, or not so much concerned with the repeatability for that particular.

00:13:38.150 --> 00:13:43.250 Doug Frith Ohh piece of it, it's just how well can you compare to the ground reference data?

00:13:47.640 --> 00:13:48.020 Michael Nieminen

OK.

00:13:52.460 --> 00:13:55.870 Jeff Uhlmeyer OK, it's Jeff Omeyer, I'm gonna give a brief.

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A summary of the transverse pavement profile evaluation tests go through each one briefly.

00:14:03.860 --> 00:14:07.180 Jeff Uhlmeyer Listed are the tests in the astral standards we have the static.

00:14:08.820 --> 00:14:19.850 Jeff Uhlmeyer Assessment static performance, we have body motion navigational drift and highway performance.

Those are the ones that will be concentrating on that the TP TPP event.

00:14:23.180 --> 00:14:29.200 Jeff Uhlmeyer The first one, is the static performance test this shows a typical setup that's used to.

00:14:31.690 --> 00:14:36.500 Jeff Uhlmeyer Calibrate check the calibration of the of the bar of the straight edge certify straight edge.

00:14:38.780 --> 00:14:50.260 Jeff Uhlmeyer So the purpose is static performance test is to assess assessment of the TPP accuracy and precision and static mode and like I said it's used to certify straight edge and gates blocks measured.

00:14:50.880 --> 00:14:51.460 Jeff Uhlmeyer Uh.

00:14:52.280 --> 00:15:04.940 Jeff Uhlmeyer The The whole procedure is listed in the in the standard but the output test statistics. You could see the different items that we'll be measuring and computing and evaluating in this event.

00:15:09.410 --> 00:15:11.800 Jeff Uhlmeyer The Next One is the body motion test.

00:15:12.500 --> 00:15:17.950 Jeff Uhlmeyer Which is uh shown the laid out here with the certified plates and the excitation boards?

00:15:19.580 --> 00:15:24.470 Jeff Uhlmeyer To measure the assessment of the dynamatic variables in the in the TPP.

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So, like I say that it's assessment of TPP accuracy and precision. Other expectation at the primary right wheel hop excitation frequencies and reason flat plates referent offers objects measured under expectation so you can see it's there's different testing speeds.

00:15:45.160 --> 00:15:52.910 Jeff Uhlmeyer Uh 5 miles an hour, 8 mile mph at 2:12 miles an hour and there was 2 passes each.

00:15:54.390 --> 00:16:05.510 Jeff Uhlmeyer So this test, I think we are completing under 10 minutes. Uh per vehicle to obtain the data. I forgot to mention on the static test?

00:16:07.860 --> 00:16:08.350 Jeff Uhlmeyer Excuse me.

00:16:10.270 --> 00:16:20.550 Jeff Uhlmeyer We I forgot to mention the static test. It took about less than 10 minutes, 11:50 minutes per vehicle to run it through that that test so these tests go pretty quick.

00:16:15.490 --> 00:16:16.580 Canick, Thomas M.

Is the minutes?

00:16:25.100 --> 00:16:31.620 Jeff Uhlmeyer The 3rd test is the navigational drift test which you can see in motion here.

00:16:32.910 --> 00:16:37.420 Jeff Uhlmeyer Basics of Figure 8 track that is run through that set speed.

00:16:39.010 --> 00:16:39.350 Jeff Uhlmeyer Oops.

00:16:43.960 --> 00:16:57.700 Jeff Uhlmeyer There we go and it's assessment of TPP drift and GPS over time. Just the variable that's inherent in TPP localization systems, so measure is a reference object while driving a Figure 8 pattern.

00:16:59.800 --> 00:17:11.820 Jeff Uhlmeyer We do 5 uh full Figure 8 loops. It has to be completed and the maximum time of 37 seconds and the target speed is about 8 minutes.

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Or 8 miles an hour.

00:17:14.330 --> 00:17:14.860 Jeff Uhlmeyer So.

00:17:16.260 --> 00:17:21.010 Jeff Uhlmeyer This test goes pretty quick less than less like get another test less than 10 minutes.

00:17:25.040 --> 00:17:28.460 Jeff Uhlmeyer Finally, the last Test of the highway performance test.

00:17:29.260 --> 00:17:35.410 Jeff Uhlmeyer But you can see typical setup here uh the plates out in front here were from a about.

00:17:38.630 --> 00:17:50.260 Jeff Uhlmeyer Uh other tests that we were performing but the the area of concern was where these straight edge bars are laid out. We have a reference section. We clear when I show the next slide.

00:17:50.940 --> 00:17:51.490 Jeff Uhlmeyer Here we go.

00:17:53.630 --> 00:18:19.590 Jeff Uhlmeyer The basic assessment of TPP accuracy and precision are typical dynamic operation measure beams and designated areas that vary in speed. So we're running through this system. We have this rectangle here as the ground reference test section that we do a ground reference test measurements. We know the the ground truth and we're comparing the TPS to the ground truth in this portion of the test.

00:18:20.450 --> 00:18:24.630 Jeff Uhlmeyer So you can see that there's target speeds 15 miles an hour.

00:18:25.530 --> 00:18:25.990 Jeff Uhlmeyer Throughout.

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Yeah.

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That well kilometers per hour.

00:18:31.400 --> 00:18:37.180 Jeff Uhlmeyer To 105, so I'd go it could create something here, you go 99 miles an hour up to 65 miles an hour.

00:18:38.220 --> 00:18:52.930 Jeff Uhlmeyer And we do in 3 passes each so we're have different outputs statistics. We're looking for and this test ohh takes over an hour per vehicle to perform so it goes pretty quick when we run the vehicles.

00:18:53.640 --> 00:18:58.210 Jeff Uhlmeyer Uh sequentially through the job at the variance variance speeds.

00:19:04.120 --> 00:19:21.890 Jeff Uhlmeyer And the ground reference test this is the what I mentioned about getting the ground. Truth of the of the section where using a precision scanning method and it's accuracy within that half millimeter and we're getting the true ground. Truth of the section that which we're measuring the TPP 2.

00:19:29.550 --> 00:19:36.210 Jeff Uhlmeyer So this will be completed by QS and like I say it's used to compare highway performance transfers profiles to the ground truth.

00:19:43.090 --> 00:19:47.880 Jeff Uhlmeyer So the location for the TPP as we stated previously.

00:19:49.710 --> 00:19:52.420 Jeff Uhlmeyer Near Losson Road static testing will be done.

00:19:53.170 --> 00:19:59.420 Jeff Uhlmeyer The sight near Losson Road Uh Leesburg, Virginia, the body motion and navigational drifts north of.

00:20:00.240 --> 00:20:01.330 Jeff Uhlmeyer Aspirin Park.

00:20:02.120 --> 00:20:11.570 Jeff Uhlmeyer Basically, at the nation North Aspen Park and ride off Russell Branch Parkway and the highway performance test is off Russell Branch Parkway. It allowed County.

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More of a visual of the areas.

00:20:24.650 --> 00:20:26.400 Jeff Uhlmeyer Where the different tests will be held?

00:20:34.570 --> 00:20:45.790 Jeff Uhlmeyer So some other items considered during the evaluation. The TPP portion is for static you'll need to provide laser safety glasses and a method for locating lasers.

00:20:46.620 --> 00:20:47.190 Jeff Uhlmeyer Ohm.

00:20:48.260 --> 00:20:59.660 Jeff Uhlmeyer The QS use the laser card that we could put under the laser and locate it quite easily. There's also a scanners that you can use or lasers that you can use the scanners that you can use to pick up the scan or the laser.

00:21:00.720 --> 00:21:10.860 Jeff Uhlmeyer Uh for body motion navigational drift, we found that the I. MU settings play an important part in achieving good results so are they encourage you so the MU during the measurement.

00:21:11.940 --> 00:21:12.950 Jeff Uhlmeyer And finally.

00:21:14.190 --> 00:21:32.320 Jeff Uhlmeyer Uh highway performance depending on field view for TPP, catcher in the entire 4 meter width can be difficult with any wander from the center line so we try to get the vehicles aligned through the section as much as possible, as you go down the road and measure with your TPP during the individual runs.

00:21:38.270 --> 00:21:51.600 Jeff Uhlmeyer So the data submittals provided or necessary in the TPP is provide for Astro tests for the static body motion navigation drifts and highway performance P 106 or 109.

00:21:52.470 --> 00:21:58.340 Jeff Uhlmeyer Yeah, and requires initial raw data data provided by the laser system prior to filter and processing.

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There has been discussion going on about that and finally uh submittal that set that sample set submittal format by test will provided on the federal lands procurement website, so you can see samples of how this.

00:22:14.350 --> 00:22:15.780 Jeff Uhlmeyer Data should be submitted.

00:22:22.210 --> 00:22:28.370 Jeff Uhlmeyer So if that I'll turn this over to Dennis Morian. We'll go through the standard 2 D 3 D data format.

00:22:31.250 --> 00:22:32.490 Dennis Morian OK thanks Jeff.

00:22:34.100 --> 00:22:39.300 Dennis Morian Standard data format was part of the effort developed under the pool fund.

00:22:39.620 --> 00:22:42.190 Dennis Morian Uh group research.

00:22:42.890 --> 00:22:48.860 Dennis Morian Previously, so go ahead, Jeff Uh, it, it's under the ash to MP 47.

00:22:50.180 --> 00:22:52.850 Dennis Morian And that information is available.

00:22:53.960 --> 00:22:57.810 Dennis Morian Some some of the objectives of the standard data format.

00:22:58.500 --> 00:23:02.320 Dennis Morian Part of this exercise is to support uh.

00:23:03.300 --> 00:23:06.600 Dennis Morian Hashtag and developing standards for data collection.

00:23:07.760 --> 00:23:14.730 Dennis Morian Uh so that so, so that we can move toward more standardized activities in in this area.

00:23:16.310 --> 00:23:24.820 Dennis Morian

Being able to analyze the the 2 D and 3 D digital image images that are generated from different sources.

00:23:27.200 --> 00:23:39.930 Dennis Morian And make it possible to exchange data among users software tools and platforms so for example, if the owner agency wants to be able to look at those digital images.

00:23:41.670 --> 00:23:46.750 Dennis Morian The data that creates those digital images. Uh they they will be able to do so.

00:23:48.300 --> 00:23:58.860 Dennis Morian And reprocessing data when when new analysis algorithms are developed, so method of storage that can be retrieved for use later.

00:24:03.560 --> 00:24:04.480 Dennis Morian Next slide.

00:24:09.740 --> 00:24:23.970 Dennis Morian So, just a little bit of sample of about how this is gonna work as I said it's in accordance with the Achto MP 47 file format 2 dimensional 3 dimensional pavement image data.

00:24:25.370 --> 00:24:30.730 Dennis Morian On the right as a an image of the the cover of that standard.

00:24:32.500 --> 00:24:40.440 Dennis Morian Commonly, it refer it's referred to as providing the data in the dot PSI file format.

00:24:42.010 --> 00:24:46.200 Dennis Morian And the report is given here along with the.

00:24:46.960 --> 00:24:50.420 Dennis Morian Access link to to achieve that.

00:24:50.720 --> 00:24:55.540 Dennis Morian The report that was the basis for this standard.

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Next slide.

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So not to go into a lot of detail but just to give you some example of of what this is gonna look like.

00:25:11.130 --> 00:25:19.600 Dennis Morian There's a file structure in the standard data format that's comprised of these 6 sequential sections shown here.

00:25:20.930 --> 00:25:25.160 Dennis Morian On and and each of these has significant importance.

00:25:25.900 --> 00:25:36.890 Dennis Morian Uh we'll talk we'll or we'll show a little bit later on. There are certain of these 5 file fields that that have to be populated.

00:25:39.660 --> 00:25:45.480 Dennis Morian The the file signature and the file hit header certainly are among those that have to be populated.

00:25:49.310 --> 00:25:56.320 Dennis Morian And so obviously this information is used for identification of information.

00:25:57.030 --> 00:25:58.300 Dennis Morian To the next slide.

00:26:01.420 --> 00:26:11.740 Dennis Morian The header we have some some sample and this. This is just a snapshot from the standard some sample of what that information looks like.

00:26:12.430 --> 00:26:12.940 Dennis Morian Uh.

00:26:14.150 --> 00:26:19.580 Dennis Morian The the length of the strings and the in the various data elements.

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And details of of what that's intended to to provide what information it will provide.

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In the next slide Jeff.

00:26:32.160 --> 00:26:38.070 Dennis Morian So this is the list, then of the standard data format required fields.

00:26:39.010 --> 00:26:43.300 Dennis Morian All of these must be populated in order for the.

00:26:44.260 --> 00:26:46.990 Dennis Morian Information to be acceptable and useful.

00:26:50.540 --> 00:26:56.930 Dennis Morian As an out says here any missing or invalid value will will invalidate the file so.

00:26:57.760 --> 00:27:00.170 Dennis Morian It's important that we

00:27:00.230 --> 00:27:00.480 Jeff Uhlmeyer It's

00:27:01.140 --> 00:27:08.810 Dennis Morian be able to look at this information and and have the dot PSI format for evaluation.

00:27:11.010 --> 00:27:13.280 Dennis Morian We want to make sure that.

00:27:15.140 --> 00:27:22.590 Dennis Morian Everybody is able to do this and and this becomes universally a conversant exchange of information for.

00:27:23.360 --> 00:27:26.310 Dennis Morian The data that represents the cracking images.

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Next slide Jeff.

00:27:33.490 --> 00:27:38.310 so this part of the analysis is being done by uh.

00:27:39.050 --> 00:27:44.320 Dennis Morian Doctor James sign at Georgia Tech, his contact information is provided here.

00:27:45.020 --> 00:27:52.050 Dennis Morian If you have specific questions about how to provide the the file data format.

00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:54.910 Dennis Morian You can contact doctor Sai.

00:27:58.500 --> 00:28:03.250 Dennis Morian We we wanna make sure that everybody is on board with this.

00:28:04.210 --> 00:28:11.760 Dennis Morian And we would like if possible, to be able to see a sample of your data file prior to.

00:28:12.830 --> 00:28:17.880 Dennis Morian The event, although that's not mandatory it'll be helpful.

00:28:19.630 --> 00:28:21.210 Dennis Morian If you can provide us that.

00:28:22.460 --> 00:28:30.530 Dennis Morian Again, we're providing the information to you and you'll provide responses through the FHW a procurement website.

00:28:38.470 --> 00:28:46.580 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) All right. Thank you for going over all those tests for us on this slide. I just wanted to talk about the deliverables summary.

00:28:47.740 --> 00:29:01.730 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) Ah so you guys will be performing the test and submitting your results back that are listed here so for the cracking assessments. You'll be filling out the spreadsheet provided in Appendix L.

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Ohh listing out the crack identification, severity and extent, according to the federal lands distress ID manual and then you will also be providing results in the HPMS format as well.

00:29:18.940 --> 00:29:29.590 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) For the TPP, you'll be providing all the test results, according to the Aashto guidelines listed there and then providing the standard data format files.

00:29:31.110 --> 00:29:39.270 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) Now we recognize some of these files might be pretty large to share so when you're ready to submit the results if you just email.

00:29:39.620 --> 00:29:48.740 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) Ohh our offices are email address shown here, we can send you a secure link to upload any large files.

00:29:50.120 --> 00:29:52.800 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) That go along with your final proposal packages.

00:29:55.300 --> 00:29:56.510 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) On the next slide.

00:29:58.650 --> 00:30:05.200 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) If you plan to participate in the technical field evaluation, we need you to RSVP.

00:30:05.520 --> 00:30:22.630 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) Uh by April, 11th at 4:00 PM. Eastern Time, so that is a next Monday. Some of you guys have already emailed us to let us know. Your you're planning to participate so that's great. You don't have to email again if you've already done that.

00:30:24.230 --> 00:30:48.530 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) If you have any questions, please direct them through the procurement website or at the same email address and again like, Doug said next week. We'll be going out to do the crack mapping on the road sections and we will provide you with all the details on the road segment locations the start and ends direction of travel.

00:30:49.250 --> 00:30:58.340 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) And we'll upload that along with some sample data that you can download to see what the what we expect what the results.

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We will also share post this PowerPoint presentation and I think we can post. The recording of this meeting as well on to the procurement website, so we will do that shortly after the call.

00:31:19.620 --> 00:31:40.930 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) That is all that we wanted to go over today, I guess now we could just open it up for any discussion or questions again related only to the testing and the on site event. That's coming up and QS can help answer that for you guys so thank you.

00:31:56.810 --> 00:32:01.640 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) Alright I see Russell has his hand raised up so go ahead and ask your question.

00:32:11.720 --> 00:32:13.570 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) And I think you're on mute if you're talking.

00:32:15.620 --> 00:32:18.530 Russell Knieriem (Guest) My apologies, I was double muted.

00:32:20.150 --> 00:32:30.480 Russell Knieriem (Guest) Dennis you mentioned that you wanted, these standard data formats before we get on site on the 19 and 20th what exactly are you looking for just a sample data set from another data collection.

00:32:34.070 --> 00:32:36.600 Dennis Morian If you have a sample that UM.

00:32:37.710 --> 00:32:46.400 Dennis Morian You have you've generated or that that you're generating and looking at this. It'll it'll be helpful just for us to get a handle on that.

00:32:47.630 --> 00:32:47.980 Russell Knieriem (Guest)

OK.

00:32:49.650 --> 00:32:49.980 Russell Knieriem (Guest) Yep.

00:32:50.650 --> 00:32:57.080 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) I would say if you have a sample you can email that with your RSVP to the event or.

00:32:58.670 --> 00:33:08.060

If if it comes after that sometime during next week. You can email it back to the same address that that that's been shown on the slides OK.

00:33:09.740 --> 00:33:10.140 Russell Knieriem (Guest) Thank you.

00:33:11.190 --> 00:33:11.470 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) Yep.

00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:23.150 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) Any other questions from anybody.

00:33:43.930 --> 00:33:48.000 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) All right well, you guys are easy, I was expecting some more questions here.

00:33:50.150 --> 00:33:53.260 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) Anybody has anything you can ask away.

00:33:57.580 --> 00:34:00.850 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) Alright Lauren has her hand raised up go ahead.

00:34:01.900 --> 00:34:14.030 Lauren Tran Hi Brandon, thank you. I just wanted to confirm I heard that the cracking sides are being collected near the same time as the TPP certifications, but not wrap required at the exact same dates.

00:34:15.850 --> 00:34:19.980 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) Write the 2 dates April and 19th are for the TPP test.

00:34:21.830 --> 00:34:27.940 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) Umm I guess the question for the QS guys are you expecting that to take off all.

00:34:28.810 --> 00:34:35.900 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) To all all that time, both days or where they have time to run the cracking segments on those days as well.

00:34:40.860 --> 00:34:44.210

This this is Doug and I'll I'll take my dashboard at that one.

00:34:46.050 --> 00:34:53.670

The the idea I think is that the navigational drift body motion and.

00:34:55.210 --> 00:34:59.870 Doug Frith TPP highway performance would probably all be done the first day.

00:35:01.320 --> 00:35:05.340 Doug Frith And then the static test would be done the morning of the second day.

00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:13.020 Doug Frith And that's assuming that weather is cooperative, which obviously we can't control that.

00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:14.620 Doug Frith And then

00:35:16.460 --> 00:35:22.670 Doug Frith and and probably if it goes that way. The static testing is only gonna take the morning of the second day.

00:35:24.990 --> 00:35:29.300 Doug Frith And so yes, there would be time you know later that second day.

00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:30.570 Doug Frith Umm.

00:35:32.310 --> 00:36:02.660 Doug Frith But and I think that to answer Laurence question in another way is Lauren. You can correct collect that cracking data. Whatever is convenient around. That same schedule. I think there is requirements of delivering the cranking data or are already defined in the in the procurement document so there is a date when you're gonna have to provide that data by but as long as you collect it between the time we give you the.

00:36:03.180 --> 00:36:11.030 Doug Frith The final locations and that you know whenever you can get your data and and get it delivered by that date that would be fine.

00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:13.930 Lauren Tran Thank you so much.

00:36:15.420 --> 00:36:33.660

Yeah, and I think one thing that maybe we did not mention when we talked about marking off the 0.03 mile subsections of those road segments. We'll send you those locations next week and we'll show you some pictures of how we mark them off with the you know paint on the pavement.

00:36:34.620 --> 00:36:54.490 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) We want you guys to identify the cracking between those marked off segments. For every 0.03 and you know. Whenever you see the the marking treat that as the end of that section and not necessarily not necessarily rely so much on your HDMI because we want to make sure everybody is.

00:36:55.790 --> 00:36:58.360 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) Reporting the same sections for comparisons.

00:37:14.270 --> 00:37:16.760 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) All right does anybody else have any questions.

00:37:17.570 --> 00:37:19.710 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) Can take a couple more here we got time?

00:37:34.980 --> 00:37:36.830 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) Nobody nobody's got anything.

00:37:40.420 --> 00:37:46.830 Doug Frith This is Doug again. Brandon I I just wanna I guess bring back around to the the.

00:37:47.530 --> 00:38:04.000 Doug Frith Data that you guys are we're asking you to provide for all of the TPP certifications. We've done a few of these around the country now and several different vendors have participated in and state agencies as well, and what we have found is that?

00:38:05.430 --> 00:38:13.980 Doug Frith The the data that you would typically collect and deliver is filtered and it.

00:38:14.650 --> 00:38:28.290 Doug Frith Does not show up well in the analysis, especially engage locks and some of those things so please provide the unfiltered raw data as it's collected from the.

00:38:29.380 --> 00:38:34.370

From your sensors and I don't know Jeff or Dennis or Joe if you guys want to expand on that.

00:38:35.600 --> 00:38:38.950 Doug Frith I know that's good has been an issue in the past, so I wanted to bring up.

00:38:50.590 --> 00:38:52.710 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) Alright I see Russell has his hand up again.

00:38:54.800 --> 00:39:00.450 Russell Knieriem (Guest) Yeah, I was wondering if you or if they edged WA was interested in seeing other.

00:39:01.370 --> 00:39:04.640 Russell Knieriem (Guest) Technologies other than maybe an MFC or DSV.

00:39:10.010 --> 00:39:15.140 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) We will be on site with you guys when you're performing the tests.

00:39:15.830 --> 00:39:24.160 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) I think maybe we, we could set aside a minute or some time with each of you to have an overview of your vehicle.

00:39:25.100 --> 00:39:25.460 Russell Knieriem (Guest)

OK.

00:39:39.670 --> 00:39:43.270 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) All right last call for more questions before we go.

00:39:45.260 --> 00:39:54.650 Dennis Morian I think Brandon just to add to Doug 's comments about the TPP data format. It's it's important to.

00:39:56.690 --> 00:40:03.720 Dennis Morian As he said to have that raw data and and that actually is what is called for in the standards.

00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:05.410

Uh so.

00:40:06.200 --> 00:40:07.910

Can refer to those but?

00:40:08.860 --> 00:40:15.960 Dennis Morian We really need the most crisp clear precise data. We can get and what we found like Doug said is that.

00:40:16.690 --> 00:40:27.680 Dennis Morian Processed or filtered data ends up providing averages, and in the the images are not adequately crisp to be able to do assessments that we need to do.

00:40:30.260 --> 00:40:30.800 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA)

OK.

00:40:31.510 --> 00:40:35.600 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) Very good to note that does anyone have any questions about that again.

00:40:46.930 --> 00:40:55.140 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) Alright well, I'll ask just one last time any more comments or questions from anybody or including QS.

00:41:02.510 --> 00:41:08.720 Doug Frith Brandon I would also just say uh on here a special thanks to Vidot, who has been willing to.

00:41:09.860 --> 00:41:13.680 Doug Frith Coordinate with us on on this whole effort and will be providing the.

00:41:14.640 --> 00:41:22.730 Doug Frith The traffic control when we're out doing the TPP testing as well as the facilities, so I just wanted to thank them.

00:41:23.830 --> 00:41:39.500 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) Yep, and I wanna thank you know, Andy and you guys are QS for helping us get all the all the stuff ready for these tests, you made. This come together pretty quickly and made it easy on me and my team, so thank you guys.

00:41:45.030 --> 00:41:49.200

Alright well, there's no further questions we can bring the meeting to a close.

00:41:50.460 --> 00:41:58.750

There was a lot of people that attended that call, and I. I did not wanna take time to have everybody introduce themselves, but if you.

00:41:59.680 --> 00:42:13.370 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) I feel like you want to just use the chat pod to list your company and and name. We'll know who you are, and where you're from, especially maybe the people that are dialed in on the phone and we can't see your name.

00:42:14.080 --> 00:42:19.570 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) So I just wanted to say that at the end case anybody wants to put that in the chat.

00:42:21.750 --> 00:42:27.180 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) And that's all we wanted to go over today, so thanks again and we'll talk to you all later.

00:42:37.730 --> 00:42:38.120 Parker, Napoleon Thank you.

00:43:21.410 --> 00:43:30.180 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) Alright I still see, there are people on the line. I don't know what that means there were more questions and you wanna ask them now we still have time if anybody has anything.

00:43:49.180 --> 00:43:51.380 Strohl, Brandon (FHWA) All right, I think we can stop the recording, then.

00:43:53.070 --> 00:43:54.550 Russell Knieriem (Guest) Thanks, Brandon take care.

00:43:55.180 --> 00:43:56.120

Yep, thank you.